Who was the Irish teenager who saw Gerry and Jez talking?

[Alfred R Jones]

I get the point perfectly thank you. I haven't seen that in the Final Report I'm afraid. Please could you provide a quote or link?

What was that about what did your last slave die of?

[faithlilly]

That's you're opinion.  There are 4 key sectors on any clock - on the hour, quarter past, half past and quarter to.  It is natural when talking about approximates to cite to the nearest quarter, so for example Iam looking at my watch now and I would say "it's around half-past twelve".  Now tell me you would say "It's around 12"

No I'd say it's around half past twelve because it's near 12.30pm than 12pm. 10pm is nearer 10pm than 10.30pm

[Alfred R Jones]

No I'd say it's around half past twelve because it's near 12.30pm than 12pm. 10pm is nearer 10pm than 10.30pm

I presume you meant to write 10.13pm.  Do you not bother with quarter past and quarter to then?  If you looked at your watch at 10.13pm and someone asked you the time, you'd reply it's around 10pm would you?  I don't think so.   &%&£(+

[faithlilly]

I presume you meant to write 10.13pm.  Do you not bother with quarter past and quarter to then?  If you looked at your watch at 10.13pm and someone asked you the time, you'd reply it's around 10pm would you?  I don't think so.   &%&£(+

No I'd say 10.13pm. However if I was guessing sometime later I'd say around 10pm.

[Alfred R Jones]

No I'd say 10.13pm. However if I was guessing sometime later I'd say around 10pm.

Of course you would dear.

[faithlilly]

Of course you would dear.

I'm surprised you wouldn't.

[G-Unit]

What was that about what did your last slave die of?

just a saying Alfred. It means don't ask others to do things you are able to do yourself. You asked a question about the timeline of the alarm being raised. I provided a link for you. You then asked me to itemise the information on the link. I said no. If you want information surely you should find it yourself, not ask others to do the work for you?

[Alfred R Jones]

I'm surprised you wouldn't.

I'm not surprised that you're surprised.  I bet you'd look at your watch at 9.47pm and say it was around 10 too.  The thing is, in the police report writing "around 10pm" means (IMO) "10pm give or take a minute or two either side", not "somewhere between 9.45pm and 10.15pm, which is way too large a timescale for a timeline which was critical to trying to establish facts.

[Alfred R Jones]

just a saying Alfred. It means don't ask others to do things you are able to do yourself. You asked a question about the timeline of the alarm being raised. I provided a link for you. You then asked me to itemise the information on the link. I said no. If you want information surely you should find it yourself, not ask others to do the work for you?

Which is exactly why you can go and read the PT AG's Final Report for yourself without the need to instruct me to direct you to the bit that says "around 10pm".

[G-Unit]

You seem to be missing the point.  I don't need to read the link to know.  Are you of the view that it is impossible to arrive at a consensus view of the time that Kate raised the alarm because one witness has it at 9.20pm and another at 10.13pm (despite the fact that the majority have it at around 10pm)?  Is there perhaps a reluctance amongst 'sceptics' to concur with the "around 10pm" consensus as stated in the Final Report, as refusing to do so provides the necessary flexibility to shoehorn in all sorts of daft theories?  Just a thought...

I have no view as to what time the alarm was raised. I know that statements began with 9.20pm. I haven't researched when they ended. You seem to be saying that there is a consensus, a majority, who put it around 10pm 'as stated in the Final Report'. I asked you to back up your statement of this fact. You are refusing. Perhaps it's not there. Just a thought...

[Alfred R Jones]

I have no view as to what time the alarm was raised. I know that statements began with 9.20pm. I haven't researched when they ended. You seem to be saying that there is a consensus, a majority, who put it around 10pm 'as stated in the Final Report'. I asked you to back up your statement of this fact. You are refusing. Perhaps it's not there. Just a thought...

No, it is there, I can assure you.  The report is freely available to read on the net, I'm surprised you've not read it before...?

[Brietta]

No, it is there, I can assure you.  The report is freely available to read on the net, I'm surprised you've not read it before...?

LOL ... Why keep a dog and bark yourself? ... Woof!

[Alice Purjorick]

Jolly well done Alice, there's a good boy - you'd better run along now - Mummy is calling you for dinner.

You are a bit too slow Alf. It is no good trying the crack after someone else was in like Flynn with it 

[Alfred R Jones]

You are a bit too slow Alf. It is no good trying the crack after someone else was in like Flynn with it 

Your genius is wasted on us riff-raff you know. 

[sadie]

The 14 year old girl & her father weren't on the OC guest list according to the press report.
It makes me chuckle (sorry) to think that the PJ could have used 2 Irish girls of 12 & 14 yrs as prime witnesses in a case against the McCanns. What were they thinking?

What keeps bugging me, is the fact that the early reports talked about this girl coming out of her apartment, through the gate into the alleyway.

From her fag smoking position in the alleyway, she could see Gerry and Jez chatting at the end of the alleyway.  This inplied that she was staying in the western end of block 5 ... or maybe in the block immediately west of Block 5, and I seem to remember that is Block 4.

I am sorry, I am not well atm and cannot research this.  In any case if the true facts are being hidden, this statement / report could have been wiped ... as we have seen happen before



Until this thread, I have never heard mention of this girl being in Block 6.  Is it "make believe"?