Who was the Irish teenager who saw Gerry and Jez talking?

[Alfred R Jones]

And how do you know the McCanns are not ?

Long serving police seem to develop an instinct for knowing a wrong un when the see one.

They're not always right though are they?

[Carana]

And how do you know the McCanns are not ?

Long serving police seem to develop an instinct for knowing a wrong un when the see one.

Possibly, but wouldn't officers be more familiar with the type of cases that they were used to dealing with?

[Carana]

FINGERPRINTS ON THE WINDOW

One afternoon, we drive to apartment 5A at the Ocean Club. I am accompanied by Guilhermino Encarnação, the indefatigable Polícia Judiciária Director from Faro, who is following every step of the investigation, with daily trips to Portimão. José Freitas of Scotland Yard is accompanied by Stuart Prior, to whom we explain the theory of an accident. According to Encarnação, the child's death must have resulted from a fall behind the sofa, where the dogs marked the odours of cadaver and blood. The theory is simple and based on evidence in our possession. The parents would have pushed the sofa away from the window as a safety precaution because the window opened easily and it was situated, remember, three metres above the outside pavement. When Gerald went to the apartment at around 9pm to check on his children, used the toilet and then left, Madeleine might have woken up. Hearing her father's voice coming from the street outside, she may have tried to reach the window by climbing on the sofa and could have fallen behind it. Stuart indicates that he understands and agrees with the possibility. He takes this opportunity to ask if any fingerprints were found on that window or on any others, particularly on the one in Madeleine's bedroom.

Initially, we don't understand why he is asking this question, since he has seen our report. He should know that fingerprints were discovered with the lophoscopic* analysis carried out on the night of May 3rd and the following day. The results are in the report. Why is he asking about them now? We respond evasively, "Nothing conclusive."

However, on the glass, on the handle and on the right-hand frame of Madeleine's bedroom window, we had lifted five fingerprints - three from a middle finger and two from an index finger - all from a left hand, identified as belonging to Kate McCann.

The technicians who examined the apartment did not place any great importance on the identification of the fingerprints. In fact, in the absence of obvious signs of assault or of a crime - like signs of a struggle, traces of blood or the presence of a corpse -, the technicians proceed to the kind of examination that is carried out in a burglary case. They forget that fingerprints discovered in a particular place, even if they belong to an occupant of the premises, can be of fundamental importance for the progress of the investigation and constitute valuable evidence, even material proof.

The window in question is the one that Kate Healy states she found open to the left, with the curtains fluttering, when she discovered that her daughter was missing. On the window, there were no signs of a break-in or of gloves. It had been cleaned the day before, May 2nd, by an Ocean Club employee, and the only fingerprints found were Kate's. The position of the fingerprints indicate that the window had been opened to the left, as Kate Healy stated: "the window was fully open to the left." There is no doubt that somebody opened that window on the evening of May 3rd and the only fingerprints found on it were those of Kate Healy. The manager of the Ocean Club's crèche, who went to the apartment after the alarm was raised, remarked that, "the window was partially open to the left," confirming Kate's earlier statement.

We prefer not to discuss this with Stuart Prior: we have the impression that he is only here to accompany the McCanns' interrogations and to prevent their detention. His concern on that subject is obvious.  (TOTL)

So where in the files is the evidence that Kate's fingers were in an "opening position"? Or while we're on that subject, where is the evidence that the cleaning lady had cleaned the windows the day before?

[Brietta]

What has this got to do with Amarals's lie about JT identifying Murat?

How many times has it got to be pointed out that different people have different perceptions of time and distance and different levels of the power of recall.    The differences you quote above- for example 5 minutes -  would be regarded as perfectly normal by the police.   They don't expect perfect accuracy.    Neither do they expect different people describing the same incident -  all to give the same account.


Quote from DC Ferguson (JT's rogatory statement)

4078    “You know, we can take a statement from people, if an incident happened outside and there was a group of people watching it, everybody would have a different take on what they had seen”.
Unquote.

Why do you find that so difficult to understand?

They write papers about it ...

Recent research on memory, especially in the context of witness statements and interview techniques is highly relevant.
This article examines also the evidence for any effects on memory caused by weight loss/malnutrition, minor traumatic brain injury, raised stress hormone levels, post traumatic stress disorder, sleep deprivation, depression, and pain.

In the light of these studies it is contended that the assumption that discrepancies and omissions undermine credibility cannot be justified; there are alternative explanations for these differences which are at least equally likely and should be ruled out before testimony is disbelieved.
http://www.freedomfromtorture.org/sites/default/files/documents/JulietCohenRecallandCredibility.pdf