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Offline sadie

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2014, 10:26:08 PM »
Why not three ice cream sellers? Or three chefs? Or three basket weavers? Or three tenors?

David Icke will be calling Heriberto too 8(0(*
On serious matters, not everyone thinks in such a twee way.

What is your problem, Lyall?

Offline pegasus

What outstanding observation and recall.  A big pat on the back to Tasmin as well.
Yes this is a very good example that a child witness may have far better recall of details than adults.
For example, 3.63 euros, that is excellent precision.
(and if the adults in the Smith group could remember their Kelly till amounts like that, then the Smith sighting could be timed with pinpoint accuracy).

Lyall

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Everybody and everything, especially if unusual, has to be looked at Lyall, dont you think?

If it's credible, and dismissed if not. People hanging around, just looking 'odd' doesn't have credibility.

stephen25000

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Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #93 on: March 09, 2014, 10:28:14 PM »
An excellent point about the deceased's clothes being brought back and stored in the wardrobe Sadie.  This is exactly the sort of thing which Eddie would have reacted to.

PS   I have changed the title of this thread slightly to reflect the discussion.

Where is the proof clothes were brought back ?


This is an old story and sounds no more than desperation.

Lyall

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Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #94 on: March 09, 2014, 10:29:24 PM »
On serious matters, not everyone thinks in such a twee way.

What is your problem, Lyall?

Your obsession with triviality.

Offline Carew

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #95 on: March 09, 2014, 10:30:52 PM »
An excellent point about the deceased's clothes being brought back and stored in the wardrobe Sadie.  This is exactly the sort of thing which Eddie would have reacted to.

PS   I have changed the title of this thread slightly to reflect the discussion.

What??

You`ve worded that as though it is an established fact!

" There was talk on another forum....." etc etc..........and the poster goes on to say she doesn`t even know if it is true!

Shouldn`t you first ascertain that the clothes the person actually died in were the ones stored in the wardrobe........supposing it even occurred in the first place?

Offline sadie

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #96 on: March 09, 2014, 10:31:26 PM »
Your obsession with triviality.
It is important to have an over view, but the answer can be in the detail

And often is.

Offline John

If it's credible, and dismissed if not. People hanging around, just looking 'odd' doesn't have credibility.

This girl walked this road nearly every day, she also took note of 5a because she used to live there.  Her evidence is therefore extremely credible for a 12-year-old.

The point about the granddad passing away in hospital should not be lost.  The fact that someone died who previously resided at 5a is important.  His clothing or anyone connected with him could have brought cadaver scent to the apartment in their clothing.

Was the deceased's remains brought back to his firmer home? 
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 10:36:38 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #98 on: March 09, 2014, 10:32:18 PM »
Where is the proof clothes were brought back ?


This is an old story and sounds no more than desperation.

There's no proof of anything..no one knows what the dogs were alerting to

Lyall

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This girl walked this road nearly every day, she also took note of 5a because she used to live there.  Her evidence is therefore extremely credible for a 12-year-old.

But so what? The bloke she says she saw wasn't doing anything.

It's worthless to police.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 10:36:05 PM by Lyall »

Offline pegasus

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2014, 10:35:15 PM »
I find it very hard to believe that Tasmin didn't participate in creating an e-fit.   Does anyone know if there is one?
Yes she did
Processos 3a page 800
Please note mans hair is fair, as per her detailed description (difficult for the efit expert to do in black and white)

Offline sadie

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2014, 10:35:28 PM »
What??

You`ve worded that as though it is an established fact!

" There was talk on another forum....." etc etc..........and the poster goes on to say she doesn`t even know if it is true!

Shouldn`t you first ascertain that the clothes the person actually died in were the ones stored in the wardrobe........supposing it even occurred in the first place?
How can I be certain it is true?  There are no police statements.  But the likelyhood is that it is true, cos the person who posted it always showed integrity.   

Lyall

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Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2014, 10:37:29 PM »
How can I be certain it is true?  There are no police statements.  But the likelyhood is that it is true, cos the person who posted it always showed integrity.

Myth Creation by Sadie @)(++(*

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2014, 10:38:50 PM »
I have always been fascinated by the account of this young girl,  because to me she is the perfect witness.

At eleven years, she is old enough to have a reasonably adult view of a situation. She is mature enough to understand what is required in giving an intelligible and meaningful account of a suspect for the purposes of a police investigation.

At the same time, her child's eyes are free from the kind of prejudice or sophistication of perception that a more mature person may have. This is betrayed in her descriptions, which are fresh and clear. They are not over - interpretive but are merely reports.

Added to all that is the fact that, being local to Praia da Luz, and even having spent a great deal of time in apartment 5A, she is well aware of the terrain and local habits, and therefore has a certain sensitivity to what might be considered out of the ordinary in this context.

Her statement clearly shows her instinctive suspicion and wariness of this individual, even though it is not explicitly stated (she says for example  that she 'walked right up to the man and observed him directly' ). She describes him as 'ugly' and 'disgusting' - perhaps not words an adult would use very often in describing another person.

It is also significant that her first sighting of him occurs on 30th April - 2 days after the McCanns arrive in PdL - and that after her second sighting on Wednesday 2nd May, he is not seen by her again.

Whether or not any of these suspects we are looking at were seen in the locality after Madeleine's disappearance is highly significant. In an area where the population is in constant flux, there are probably few people who would be able to report on how long certain people remained in the town.  We are fortunate that she has been able to include this detail in her account.

Offline Carew

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2014, 10:39:52 PM »
How can I be certain it is true?  There are no police statements.  But the likelyhood is that it is true, cos the person who posted it always showed integrity.

My reply wasn`t to your post..........Yes, you did say that you couldn`t be certain it was true.

It was the response from John which appeared to latch onto it and promote it as a fact.

Isn`t that how misinformation and myth get spread about?