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Cariad

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Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #225 on: March 10, 2014, 06:06:14 PM »
It was Grime who said there is no evidence as the alerts do not amount to evidence..he's the expert
so according to Grime there is no evidence that Maddie died in the apartment

The word you're looking for is intelligence. The dog alerts amount to intelligence. Any resulting forensic back up would've been evidence. In this case they couldn't find it, so what remains is intelligence that cadaverine was present in 5A.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #226 on: March 10, 2014, 06:08:07 PM »
The word you're looking for is intelligence. The dog alerts amount to intelligence. Any resulting forensic back up would've been evidence. In this case they couldn't find it, so what remains is intelligence that cadaverine was present in 5A.

That's right...theres no evidence..what do you mean by intelligence...I can assure you I have heard of the word...what do you mean by intelligence in this case

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #227 on: March 10, 2014, 06:11:37 PM »
The word you're looking for is intelligence. The dog alerts amount to intelligence. Any resulting forensic back up would've been evidence. In this case they couldn't find it, so what remains is intelligence that cadaverine was present in 5A.

The word intelligence re the dogs has been used several times....do you know who introduced it

Offline sadie

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #228 on: March 10, 2014, 06:11:47 PM »
Oh so you KNOW this man possessed all these objects? Were you there?


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besides its a moot point as these are NON POROUS materials so do not come into any equation

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #229 on: March 10, 2014, 06:12:55 PM »
It was Grime who said there is no evidence as the alerts do not amount to evidence..he's the expert
so according to Grime there is no evidence that Maddie died in the apartment

Yet again, he said...

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No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence.

Which is not the same as no evidence.
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Offline Carew

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #230 on: March 10, 2014, 06:15:11 PM »
We don't know when this man died but presumably this is on public record.

I will get the Baker Street irregulars onto it...

While they are at it, perhaps they could track down the whereabouts of the cadaverine contaminated deathbed garments.

The Drs. McCann.........( or advisors associated with).........might be a good place to start asking.

With this find to latch on to and handily explain every single alert during the days following the deployment of the EVRD.........................do you think they would have blustered away with their seabass, nosebleeds, sweaty sandals, shaving related injury etc. in preference to investigating this gem and trumpeting their findings from the rooftops were it to have been in any way useful to them?


Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #231 on: March 10, 2014, 06:15:37 PM »
Yet again, he said...

Which is not the same as no evidence.

yes it is..what do you think he means then

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #232 on: March 10, 2014, 06:18:22 PM »
While they are at it, perhaps they could track down the whereabouts of the cadaverine contaminated deathbed garments.

The Drs. McCann.........( or advisors associated with).........might be a good place to start asking.

With this find to latch on to and handily explain every single alert during the days following the deployment of the EVRD.........................do you think they would have blustered away with their seabass, nosebleeds, sweaty sandals, shaving related injury etc. in preference to investigating this gem and trumpeting their findings from the rooftops were it to have been in any way useful to them?

The McCanns don't have to track down anything...they are not suspects and not accused of any crime. They don't have to explain the alerts...grime arleady has

Offline Carew

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #233 on: March 10, 2014, 06:22:50 PM »
The McCanns don't have to track down anything...they are not suspects and not accused of any crime. They don't have to explain the alerts...grime arleady has

Read it properly.........the Baker Street irregulars are doing the tracking down, apparently!

(Why did the Drs McCann offer any explanations in the first place, then?)
« Last Edit: March 10, 2014, 06:24:38 PM by CAREW »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #234 on: March 10, 2014, 06:28:50 PM »
Read it properly.........the Baker Street irregulars are doing the tracking down, apparently!

(Why did the Drs McCann offer any explanations in the first place, then?)

I think they tried to find  a reason in the first place because they were told lies about the dogs ..once they knew the truth they knew that an explanation is not necessary

Offline John

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #235 on: March 10, 2014, 07:40:20 PM »
Ive just been reading back properly and John, you are confusing me as to what your opinion is.

This morning you posted this:
As for the connection between the death of the grandfather and Eddie's alerts are concerned there is every reason to believe that there is such a connection if Eddie was as good as Martin Grime claimed.  There is certainly as much reason to believe that there is a connection to Tasmin's grandfather as there is to the theory that Madeleine died in the apartment.  At least we know for sure the grandfather died and there is every reason to suspect that at least some of his clothing was brought back to the apartment by his wife.


then this afternoon you posted  this:


It is very obvious from the comments that many find this subject a bit uncomfortable but without having all the facts at our disposal I fail to see why.

We don't even know when the grandad passed away relative to Madeleine's disappearance?  Given that cadaver scents do not last much beyond a few months I personally cannot see a logical connection.

Im off to play Candy Crush for a short while, thats normally enough to do my head in!


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My opinion is the latter one.  If you read what I posted this morning it was a comparison based on what we are told of Eddie's abilities.  I simply stated that there is as much reason to believe a connection with the deceased grandfather as there is to the claim that Madeleine died in the apartment.  I added that at least in the former there was a body.

In my afternoon post I pointed out that we can but speculate since the facts surrounding the property occupation are unclear.  I also reiterated the point made by Anne that cadaver scent fades over time so a connection going back several years is tenuous at best.

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AnneGuedes

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Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #236 on: March 10, 2014, 07:45:25 PM »
Why go straight forward when you can go meandering ?

Offline pegasus

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #237 on: March 10, 2014, 08:16:41 PM »
About this hypothetical clothes from hospital conjecture.
Is the idea that scent was tranferred FROM that clothing ONTO the top surface of the first shelf above the floor?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #238 on: March 10, 2014, 08:31:16 PM »
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If the scent doesn't last long how can we understand the "alert" in the flower bed
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 03:08:34 AM by John »

AnneGuedes

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Re: The other occupants of Apt 5a before and after the McCanns visit.
« Reply #239 on: March 10, 2014, 08:37:46 PM »
who would abduct a corpse?
Necrophiliacs, scavengers and other cannibals. In this case the motive could have only been to avoid an autopsy that would have revealed the manner of death.