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Offline pegasus

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2014, 11:36:29 PM »
Wasn't Mr De Sousa also reported to have given a first public acknowledgement of a possibility?

icabodcrane

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2014, 11:57:38 PM »
Wasn't Mr De Sousa also reported to have given a first public acknowledgement of a possibility?

I've never heard of Mr De Sousa  ...  but it is certainly the first time that Scotland Yard have intimated that  'their thinking'  is that Madeleine McCann may not have  left apartment 5A alive
« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 11:59:15 PM by icabodcrane »

Offline pegasus

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2014, 12:33:15 AM »
http://www.met.police.uk/madeleine-mccann-appeal/
Scroll to bottom, see the 2 efits with english text on. Great.
But what if you are german or dutch or portuguese and cant read english.
No problem, at the page top click on your language.
Now you see versions of the efits with text in the relevant language, right? .......
Wrong.  8()(((@#


Offline sadie

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2014, 12:42:52 AM »
I didn't watch Crimewatch

Did Andy Redwood say  WHY  the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment   'may not follow with all their thinking'  on the case  ?

Did he give any indication why they think Madeleiene may have died in the apartment  ? 

...  that  IS  what he was saying,  wasn't it  ?
Sorry to disappoint you, Icabod, but I didn't hear him say that.

Did anyone else?

Offline pegasus

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2014, 12:59:29 AM »
Ignoring the paraphrasing of some other papers, here IMO is what he said
"While I completely accept that there are differences (between the break-ins and the McCann case), there is no abduction that we can see, but the assumption from that is that Madeleine McCann has been abducted. That may not necessarily follow with all our thinking about what may have become of Madeleine McCann."
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/intruder-sought-in-madeleine-probe-30107066.html

Offline pegasus

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2014, 01:18:11 AM »
Mr Redwood recently did an Appeal video, which is on SY site and youtube.
Also he did a press briefing. Its the press briefing we are taking about imo.
in newspaper articles imo it is best wise to rely only on Mr Redwood's exact words enclosed in quotes, (and to avoid where newspapers paraphrase him).
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 01:20:37 AM by pegasus »

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2014, 01:28:57 AM »
The usual suspects like Sky News were reporting tonight that the Portuguese police failed to pursue these leads and that the cases are linked to Madeleine. They don't miss a chance to put the boot in. 

The truth being somewhat different but lets not let a little detail like that get in the way of another great new story.

There is no tangible link between these cases and Madeleine, in fact the differences are more noticeable  What about the burglars with the mobile telephones or the two e-fits provided by the Smiths, are they now to be discarded?

A smelly, pot-bellied, tanned, foreign paedophile with pigeon English who manages to find his way into tourists apartments in order to abuse underage white English girls. Has been seen in a burgundy jumper with a white circle on the back,

 
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 01:38:43 AM by Mr Moderator »

Offline Carana

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2014, 08:41:56 AM »
ritics of the Portuguese investigation claim their failures mean they missed a vital window of opportunity to find Madeleine.

Former Met Police DCI Peter Kirkham said: “Right from the very start, the Portuguese police should have been considering sexually-motivated abduction as a possibility.

“I find it quite extraordinary that potential links with this series of offences were not made previously.”

It comes three years after Kate McCann wrote in her book, called “Madeleine”, that a series of s.e.x attacks on British youngsters was not properly investigated by the Portuguese authorities.

She said the crimes had been “brushed under the carpet”.

When asked during a press conference at Scotland Yard today if the suspect was the same person described in Kate’s book, Mr Redwood simply replied: “Yes.”


Mr Redwood added: “While I accept there are differences between the break-ins and the McCann case, there is no abduction that we can see, but the assumption from that is that Madeleine McCann has been abducted.

“That may not necessarily follow with all our thinking about what may have become of Madeleine. It is really critical for us to identify this offender and prove or disprove whether he was involved in her disappearance.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-police-hunt-3262552#ixzz2wSCcG1LS

stephen25000

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Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2014, 08:44:06 AM »
ritics of the Portuguese investigation claim their failures mean they missed a vital window of opportunity to find Madeleine.

Former Met Police DCI Peter Kirkham said: “Right from the very start, the Portuguese police should have been considering sexually-motivated abduction as a possibility.

“I find it quite extraordinary that potential links with this series of offences were not made previously.”

It comes three years after Kate McCann wrote in her book, called “Madeleine”, that a series of s.e.x attacks on British youngsters was not properly investigated by the Portuguese authorities.

She said the crimes had been “brushed under the carpet”.

When asked during a press conference at Scotland Yard today if the suspect was the same person described in Kate’s book, Mr Redwood simply replied: “Yes.”


Mr Redwood added: “While I accept there are differences between the break-ins and the McCann case, there is no abduction that we can see, but the assumption from that is that Madeleine McCann has been abducted.

“That may not necessarily follow with all our thinking about what may have become of Madeleine. It is really critical for us to identify this offender and prove or disprove whether he was involved in her disappearance.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-police-hunt-3262552#ixzz2wSCcG1LS

Using the 'mirror' here is not the best idea, given there xenophobic attacks on the Portuguese, personified by Tony 'SARDINES' Parsons.

Offline Carana

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2014, 08:56:11 AM »
I suppose that if this creep (assuming it was the same person) who escalated in his offending, then there may indeed be little chance that she's still alive. On the other hand, Smithman still hasn't been eliminated yet, and it's not clear where they're at on the burglar front.

Offline Eleanor

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2014, 09:25:06 AM »
I think the PJ will be working hard, I doubt that it's their fault that the JIT idea doesn't seem to have worked out.

Not sure what JIT is.

Yes, The PJ might well be working hard, it just doesn't look like it.  This man is hardly likely to stop now, and he might kill someone next time.
The PJ Review has been underway for at least two years now.  How long is it going to take?  They even have his DNA.

Offline Carana

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2014, 09:39:08 AM »
Not sure what JIT is.

Yes, The PJ might well be working hard, it just doesn't look like it.  This man is hardly likely to stop now, and he might kill someone next time.
The PJ Review has been underway for at least two years now.  How long is it going to take?  They even have his DNA.

JIT = Joint Investigation Team, eliminating faffing around with endless rogs.

I HOPE they have his DNA. A problem is that they have no one to compare it to for the moment. He might not even be in PT any more.

Offline Eleanor

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2014, 09:56:03 AM »
JIT = Joint Investigation Team, eliminating faffing around with endless rogs.

I HOPE they have his DNA. A problem is that they have no one to compare it to for the moment. He might not even be in PT any more.

Thank you.  Agreed on that.  But the correct procedures are important.  Not that this would stop The PJ from arresting him, because it wouldn't.

Agreed also that at the moment they have nothing to compare, until they start looking at individuals.

And what about Phone Pings?  They do have times and locations.

Offline Benice

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2014, 11:45:10 AM »
The PJ are also doing the same - ie. investigating a possible link between these cases and Madeleine.    I suppose you think you know better than the PJ team as well as knowing better than SY.

« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 05:26:43 PM by John »
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Eleanor

Re: DCI Redwood reports 12 more cases of child assaults in the Algarve.
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2014, 11:49:18 AM »
So what irony is there in several cases of no evidence of a break in, and supposedly no forensics.  Exactly as happened in The McCann Case.
It all sounds very familiar to me.  Meanwhile, Amaral completely discarded any link, and tried to prove that it was not possible to enter 5A without leaving any evidence when he must have known that it had already happened several times elsewhere.

The man is a liar and a dissembler with no shame or care for what happens to small girls.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2014, 05:27:49 PM by John »