DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.

[Estuarine]

I answered a specific question...it is obvious to everyone that Maddie is almost certainly dead...even her parents I am fairly sure would accept this...however..there is no evidence that she is dead...therefore as SY correctly state she may still be alive...your constant attempts to prove me wrong are making you look rather silly

Oh gosh! Perish the thought. I really must mend my ways and educate myself; an anonymous know all thinks I look silly.
Quel dommage.

[Estuarine]

I answered a specific question...it is obvious to everyone that Maddie is almost certainly dead...even her parents I am fairly sure would accept this...however..there is no evidence that she is dead...therefore as SY correctly state she may still be alive...your constant attempts to prove me wrong are making you look rather silly

Your post 474 on this thread; there isnt any evidence taht maddie has been harmed
It would interesting to see how that statement can be reconciled with the bold bit in your post.

[Mr Gray]

Your post 474 on this thread; there isnt any evidence taht maddie has been harmed
It would interesting to see how that statement can be reconciled with the bold bit in your post.

There is no evidence Maddie is dead

Maddie is almost certainly dead


Which one don't you agree with... they are both true as far as I am concerned

[Anna]

Yes,  yes  ...  and round it goes

But I did not ask you whether you  believed  the cadaver dog picked up the scent of Madeleine McCann's dead body  ....  I aked if you accepted  it is  'possible'  that he did 

It is possible,   isn't it  ?

Possible but Highly unlikely. Do you believe it is possible, she was abducted? It is possible is it not? After all that is what SC believes

[Cariad]

Possible but Highly unlikely. Do you believe it is possible, she was abducted? It is possible is it not? After all that is what SC believes

Actually DCI Redwood's last words on the subject was that abduction "may not follow all our thinking in this case".
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

[Anna]

Actually DCI Redwood's last words on the subject was that abduction "may not follow all our thinking in this case".
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

I know Caraid, but I believed at the time that it meant this

“May not follow with all  of our thinking“ and the other statement……….. “police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was”

 I read this , to be including the Portuguese police investigators as well as NSY….. As in “All”
Hence a difference of opinion between the police of Portugal, who are the investigators of a crime in their own country and NSY , who are not Portuguese officials.
He did not say, British police or NSY.   He said “police”


However I do believe SY are still looking for an abductor with a disgustingly small reward for evidence pointing in the direction of anyone involved in her disappearance.

[Wonderfulspam]

Actually DCI Redwood's last words on the subject was that abduction "may not follow all our thinking in this case".
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Detective Ch Insp Andy Redwood, who is leading the investigation, said:

‘Madeleine McCann’s disappearance does, on one reading of the evidence, have the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction that would undoubtedly have involved reconnaissance.’

http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/14/madeleine-mccann-snatched-in-pre-planned-abduction-police-tell-crimewatch-appeal-4146254/


I wondered what was the other reading of the evidence Mr Redwood had in mind....

Then it hit me,  It was obviously the unplanned abduction/murder by a burglar who had a very unhealthy interest in british girls.

[icabodcrane]

I know Caraid, but I believed at the time that it meant this

“May not follow with all  of our thinking“ and the other statement……….. “police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was”

 I read this , to be including the Portuguese police investigators as well as NSY….. As in “All”
Hence a difference of opinion between the police of Portugal, who are the investigators of a crime in their own country and NSY , who are not Portuguese officials.
He did not say, British police or NSY.   He said “police”


However I do believe SY are still looking for an abductor with a disgustingly small reward for evidence pointing in the direction of anyone involved in her disappearance.

Suggesting that Redwood was  'speaking for'  the Portuguese police is insupportable  (  I can't think why you would assume he was   )   

When Redwood said that there was a possibility that Madeleine died in apartment 5A he was speaking for Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  alone ...  he has no remit   (  or right  )  to speak for any other police force's  'thinking' 

[Anna]

Suggesting that Redwood was  'speaking for'  the Portuguese police is insupportable  (  I can't think why you would assume he was   )   

When Redwood said that there was a possibility that Madeleine died in apartment 5A he was speaking for Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  alone ...  he has no remit   (  or right  )  to speak for any other police force's  'thinking'

Do not assume that we have been informed of your calls by the Portugal police ( with a smirk on his face)

[icabodcrane]

Do not assume that we have been informed of your calls by the Portugal police ( with a smirk on his face)

Anna,  I understand that you would prefer Scotland Yard had  not  confirmed that there is a possibility Madeleine may have died in apartment 5A,  but it is rather desperate to pretend  that what Redwood    'meant' to say was that the Portuguese  Police believe  that,   and not  Scotland Yard  themselves

[Wonderfulspam]

Anna,  I understand that you would prefer Scotland Yard had  not  confirmed that there is a possibility Madeleine may have died in apartment 5A,  but it is rather desperate to pretend  that what Redwood    'meant' to say was that the Portuguese  Police believe  that,   and not  Scotland Yard  themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27y_yIZTAeE&feature=player_detailpage#t=144

[Anna]

Anna,  I understand that you would prefer Scotland Yard had  not  confirmed that there is a possibility Madeleine may have died in apartment 5A,  but it is rather desperate to pretend  that what Redwood    'meant' to say was that the Portuguese  Police believe  that,   and not  Scotland Yard  themselves

I am in no sense desperate to prove any untruth. I simply told how I read it

Below shows just how as clear as mud that statement was..........

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 An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve
The Guardian
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Corrections and clarifications


Corrections and clarifications column editor
The Guardian, Friday 21 March 2014

• An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic22027.html#p287378

[stephen25000]

whether the police pursue a case or not its the evidence in court that counts as amaral has shown. Pursued the mccanns and got nowhere because of alck of evidence

A lack of evidence does not mean there is no involvement in a crime.

Next.

[Cariad]

I am in no sense desperate to prove any untruth. I simply told how I read it

Below shows just how as clear as mud that statement was..........

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 An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve
The Guardian
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Corrections and clarifications


Corrections and clarifications column editor
The Guardian, Friday 21 March 2014

• An article about police investigations into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal in 2007 (Madeleine police hunt serial sex attacker who prowled Algarve, 20 March, page 3) said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood had said the assumption that Madeleine had been alive when she left the apartment "may not follow with all our thinking" on the case. To clarify: those quoted words actually came after Redwood had referred to the assumption that Madeleine had been abducted. However, Redwood did say during the same press conference that police were considering the possibility that Madeleine was not alive when taken from the apartment as well as the possibility that she was.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic22027.html#p287378

I agree that the article is ambiguous and poorly worded, I don't think it's possible that DCI Redwood can be speaking for the PJ though as it isn't a joint investigation.

They can only be speaking for SY.

My personal opinion is that throwing out the line that abduction may not follow all their thinking in this case is extremely unhelpful.

I can't believe that sy are unaware that there are those in the population who doubt the Mccann's version of events and such a statement can only fuel speculation.

[Mr Gray]

I agree that the article is ambiguous and poorly worded, I don't think it's possible that DCI Redwood can be speaking for the PJ though as it isn't a joint investigation.

They can only be speaking for SY.

My personal opinion is that throwing out the line that abduction may not follow all their thinking in this case is extremely unhelpful.

I can't believe that sy are unaware that there are those in the population who doubt the Mccann's version of events and such a statement can only fuel speculation.

He has made it clear that the mccanns are not suspects so I would think he expected that to put an end to the speculation