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Alfred R Jones

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #465 on: April 08, 2014, 06:53:37 PM »
Scotland Yard would not announce that they think Madeleine may have died in the apartment if it was just some vague,  abstract possibility



Does that mean therefore that when SY announce that Kate and Gerry and their friends are not suspects in Madeleine's disappearance it is a similarly definite statement, in your view?

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #466 on: April 08, 2014, 07:12:06 PM »
Does that mean therefore that when SY announce that Kate and Gerry and their friends are not suspects in Madeleine's disappearance it is a similarly definite statement, in your view?

Not necessarily. When faced with a direct question, they could hardly say otherwise without provoking an outburst from the McCanns's lawyers.
In the case of possible death, there was really no need to mention it at all without there being good reason.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #467 on: April 08, 2014, 07:24:32 PM »
Not necessarily. When faced with a direct question, they could hardly say otherwise without provoking an outburst from the McCanns's lawyers.
In the case of possible death, there was really no need to mention it at all without there being good reason.

I don't recall Redwood being asked if the McCanns or their friends were still suspects, it was information freely given as part of his statement at the time as I recall.  Personally I don't see there having been any change in SY's stance - they have always stressed that Madeleine may be dead, and of course one possibility that we've all been aware of, sadly, is that she was killed in the apartment prior to being removed.

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #468 on: April 08, 2014, 07:32:44 PM »

AW: Now, it's been a tough week for you. The Portuguese press, in particular, seem to be conducting what could be described as a 'smear campaign' against you and attempting to put the blame of Madeleine's disappearance on you. Where are they getting this information from and how do you react to it?
 
GM: Ehhh... we don't read Portuguese, so, I think that's the first thing to say that, errr... we haven't read the, errr... accounts first hand, errr... there does seem to be, errr... a consistency this week - and claims from police sources - but to be perfectly frank we don't know how much of that is true and how much of it's speculation. What we do know is that speculation certainly doesn't help us. We know a number of the facts and, errm... I have not seen any evidence, or know of any direct evidence, to have changed our... our viewpoint to what we have held for the last hundred days and, you know, we've said all along and... everything we have done, during the last hundred days, is focussed on, errr... the belief that Madeleine was alive when she was abducted and, errm... certainly, errr... we were encouraged in that respect and, errr... everything we have done is to increase the chances of her being returned.

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #469 on: April 08, 2014, 07:35:53 PM »
I don't recall Redwood being asked if the McCanns or their friends were still suspects, it was information freely given as part of his statement at the time as I recall.  Personally I don't see there having been any change in SY's stance - they have always stressed that Madeleine may be dead, and of course one possibility that we've all been aware of, sadly, is that she was killed in the apartment prior to being removed.

I don't recall either for sure, though I thought it was in response to a question. However no doubt someone far more  engrossed than myself will come along with the answer shortly.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #470 on: April 08, 2014, 07:37:42 PM »
I don't recall Redwood being asked if the McCanns or their friends were still suspects, it was information freely given as part of his statement at the time as I recall.  Personally I don't see there having been any change in SY's stance - they have always stressed that Madeleine may be dead, and of course one possibility that we've all been aware of, sadly, is that she was killed in the apartment prior to being removed.

Kate must have considered that quite early on when she saw fit to search for Maddie inside a big dumpster type bin.

 
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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #471 on: April 08, 2014, 07:39:07 PM »
I don't recall Redwood being asked if the McCanns or their friends were still suspects, it was information freely given as part of his statement at the time as I recall.  Personally I don't see there having been any change in SY's stance - they have always stressed that Madeleine may be dead, and of course one possibility that we've all been aware of, sadly, is that she was killed in the apartment prior to being removed.

He would be stupid to say it and I wouldn't want them to think any different until the time is right. No more secret meetings 8(0(*
« Last Edit: April 08, 2014, 07:42:14 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #472 on: April 08, 2014, 10:21:26 PM »
Kate must have considered that quite early on when she saw fit to search for Maddie inside a big dumpster type bin.
I don't think that necessarily supports the view that Kate believed Madeleine was killed in the apartment.  She may have feared that Madeleine had been disposed of after being abducted and murdered.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #473 on: April 08, 2014, 10:27:28 PM »
He would be stupid to say it and I wouldn't want them to think any different until the time is right. No more secret meetings 8(0(*
It would make more sense if you were working towards arresting Kate and Gerry to give a non-committal response to a question about the McCanns' possible involvement a) because it wouldn't make you look so stupid at a later date and b) because it would undoubtedly unsettle and put pressure on your suspects.

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #474 on: April 09, 2014, 12:24:12 AM »
It would make more sense if you were working towards arresting Kate and Gerry to give a non-committal response to a question about the McCanns' possible involvement a) because it wouldn't make you look so stupid at a later date and b) because it would undoubtedly unsettle and put pressure on your suspects.

I think they want to get on and do their job. They don't need the media circus coming to town and sending in the clowns.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #475 on: April 09, 2014, 01:26:32 PM »
I don't think that necessarily supports the view that Kate believed Madeleine was killed in the apartment.  She may have feared that Madeleine had been disposed of after being abducted and murdered.


We know a number of the facts and, errm... I have not seen any evidence, or know of any direct evidence, to have changed our... our viewpoint to what we have held for the last hundred days and, you know, we've said all along and... everything we have done, during the last hundred days, is focussed on, errr... the belief that Madeleine was alive when she was abducted and, errm... certainly, errr... we were encouraged in that respect and, errr...

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