DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.

[jassi]

Whoever these people were (or worse, are), were they fully investigated at the time? Or even now? Some were serious sexual assaults, for heaven's sake.

Then, no doubt they would have been investigated. Why should you think otherwise ?

[ferryman]

Letter to the attorney general:

The non involvement of the arguidos parents of Madeleine in any penally relevant action seems to result from the objective circumstances of them not being inside the apartment when she disappeared, from the normal behaviour that they adopted until said disappearance and afterwards, as can be amply concluded from the witness statements, from the telephone communications analysis and also from the forensics' conclusions, namely the Reports from the FSS and from the National Institute for Legal Medicine.

[ferryman]

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The spurious and often inaccurately reported forensic findings, the irrelevant behaviour of the cadaver dogs, ...

Ian Horrocks.

[Carana]

Then, no doubt they would have been investigated. Why should you think otherwise ?

What new information led the PJ to be able to reopen the case?

[ferryman]

No. You try reading the article.....

"There is always the potential that she didn't leave the apartment alive. What is important for us to do is consider all the options," he said."

The only logic that would lead anyone to investigate death before leaving the apt is the behaviour if the dogs. Therefore, under those circumstances the dogs are not one tiny bit irrelevant.
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In what sense do you feel that taking quotes out of context contributes to meaningful, informed and considered debate?

[jassi]

What new information led the PJ to be able to reopen the case?

Pass 

[ferryman]

Pass 

Whatever the new information was, it clearly had nothing to with dogs, as they were part of the shelved enquiry.

[ferryman]

In what sense do you feel that ignoring real actual quotes from the leading investigating officer, contributes to meaningful, informed and considered debate?

We are discussing quotes taken out of context.

Information came to light about a sexual predator. 

A line of enquiry is being pursued to eliminate the sexual predator from the Madeleine enquiry ...

That has nothing to with dogs.

The first enquiry was shelved, and the McCanns' arguido status lifted, with everything about dog alerts already known.

[Carana]

In what sense do you feel that ignoring real actual quotes from the leading investigating officer, contributes to meaningful, informed and considered debate?

"Real actual quotes from the leading investigating officer..." which one? From which era?

[Carana]

We are discussing quotes taken out of context.

Information came to light about a sexual predator. 

A line of enquiry is being pursued to eliminate the sexual predator from the Madeleine enquiry ...

That has nothing to with dogs.

The first enquiry was shelved, and the McCanns' arguido status lifted, with everything about dog alerts already known.

Yes, I'd agree with that. There is (or has been) a sexual predator on the loose, possibly more than one. At the end of the day, these assaults may not be related to Madeleine's disappearance, but this person still need to be found to give closure to the other families. Once identified, that person may or may not be linked to Madeleine's disappearance.

[jassi]

Yes, I'd agree with that. There is (or has been) a sexual predator on the loose, possibly more than one. At the end of the day, these assaults may not be related to Madeleine's disappearance, but this person still need to be found to give closure to the other families. Once identified, that person may or may not be linked to Madeleine's disappearance.

The job of the Portuguese police, I would say.

[Eleanor]

I hope they don't take him up any stairs when they catch him.

[Mr Gray]

No. You try reading the article.....

"There is always the potential that she didn't leave the apartment alive. What is important for us to do is consider all the options," he said."

The only logic that would lead anyone to investigate death before leaving the apt is the behaviour of the dogs. Therefore, under those circumstances the dogs are not one tiny bit irrelevant.
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But death in the apartment was suspected BEFORE the dogs were brought in...so your whole argument is bogus

[jassi]

But death in the apartment was suspected BEFORE the dogs were brought in...so your whole argument is bogus

But presumably not by SY, until fairly recently.

[ferryman]

"There is always the potential that she didn't leave the apartment alive. What is important for us to do is consider all the options," he said."

In your opinion Ferryman, what do you think would lead D.C.I. Andy Redwood (for the benefit of Carana) to "consider the option" that Madeleine "didn't leave the apartment alive".

Or is he a [moderated] who is not considering that option whether it be amongst others or not?

If the option is being considered as D.C.I. Redwood's own words categorically confirm then who would logically consider an abducted child to have been dead before leaving the apt?

The discovery of a sexual predator with a known modus operandi of sexually abusing young girls in their beds ...