Where was Gerry immediately after Kate found Madeleine gone at 10pm?

[pathfinder73]

Where was the child located during those early searches?

She had to be away from 5A so where she was temporarily hidden is all speculation (bin, bush etc.). The person who moved her there knows the truth. Rachel said Russ and Matt checked the garden when they first ran there after the alarm so I think she would've been found if she was in the flower bed.

[Silkywhiskers]

I had a criminal hiding in my garbage bin and the dogs couldn't find her.

It wasn't until she got out of the bin and tried to leave that they caught her.

The dogs knew she was there, just not precisely where, they kept running but her scent appeared to lead nowhere until her second attempt to leave.

[pathfinder73]

Stand in the  carpark immediately opposite the tapas area entrance, look up, and there is the upstairs balcony where witnesses including NB and BB were sitting.

Not being able to read those first statements are a pain. We don't know if they were listening to music on the balcony or whatever? They saw Gerry but we haven't a time. AFTER 10pm is not good enough. The correct times will be on those first statements.

[pathfinder73]

I had a criminal hiding in my garbage bin and the dogs couldn't find her.

It wasn't until she got out of the bin and tried to leave that they caught her.

The dogs knew she was there, just not precisely where, they kept running but her scent appeared to lead nowhere until her second attempt to leave.

That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I believe a bin was probably used due to Kate looking in a bin. Don't know if that was only temporary or permanent. Need those hairs tested that were found in the boot first!

[pegasus]

She had to be away from 5A so where she was temporarily hidden is all speculation (bin, bush etc.). The person who moved her there knows the truth. Rachel said Russ and Matt checked the garden when they first ran there after the alarm so I think she would've been found if she was in the flower bed.

Your initial few words were an assumption made in the Turner disappearance in Detroit.

[pathfinder73]

Thanks I will look at that case. It's my theory and it connects. Who was away for ages on the first check as soon as everyone is accounted for at the table?

[peter claridge]

Point of note.  The time of 10pm is important for so many reasons.   It was at this time that the Smith family had an encounter with a man carrying what appeared to them to be a sleeping child.  At this time Kate alerted the seated tapas group (minus Jane Tanner) that Madeleine had disappeared.  Gerry was seated with the group at 10pm, consequently, he could not have been half a mile away being seen by the Smiths.

Jane Tanner was sat at the table!

[jassi]

Jane Tanner was sat at the table!

Jane claimed she was in her apartment looking after a sick child.

[peter claridge]

Jane claimed she was in her apartment looking after a sick child.

Not according to the two timelines written by her partner!

[jassi]

Not according to the two timelines written by her partner!

Dear me - not another pesky discrepancy - but I'm sure there will be a perfectly innocent explanation 

[pegasus]

Not being able to read those first statements are a pain. We don't know if they were listening to music on the balcony or whatever? They saw Gerry but we haven't a time. AFTER 10pm is not good enough. The correct times will be on those first statements.

I suggest google maps aerial view. Start at 5A garden gate and switch to "streetview". Walk south a dozen paces and there you are next to the carpark which the balcony looks over. Look west and you can see the balcony, shout a childs name even from there and the people on the balcony can hear you.
For the two to four people on that open balcony to be unaware of people searching below for the entire first 15 minutes, which is what you claim (correct me if wrong?), is absolutely impossible.

[Silkywhiskers]

LOL!!!!!

The qualifications of the dogs and the alleged ego of Amaral all fade into minor detail when compared with the Tapas shenanigans and lies conveniently changing stories.

[pathfinder73]

I suggest google maps aerial view. Start at 5A garden gate and switch to "streetview". Walk south a dozen paces and there you are next to the carpark which the balcony looks over. Look west and you can see the balcony, shout a childs name even from there and the people on the balcony can hear you.
For the two to four people on that open balcony to be unaware of people searching below for the entire first 15 minutes, which is what you claim (correct me if wrong?), is absolutely impossible.

I'm not wrong. You are speculating as you don't know what has been said on the missing statements. Ask Birch how he got the 10.15 time?

[Mr Gray]

LOL!!!!!

The qualifications of the dogs and the alleged ego of Amaral all fade into minor detail when compared with the Tapas shenanigans and lies conveniently changing stories.

its amazing SY haven't noticed that or are they going to wait till they have spent 20 million in Portugal then arrest the mccanns in Leicester...did eddie speak to Redwood and tell him what he alerted to in PDL..only time will tell

[Wonderfulspam]

I'm not wrong. You are speculating as you don't know what has been said on the missing statements. Ask Birch how he got the 10.15 time?

IMO this is the route Smithman took after the sighting of him at roughly 10.03.

A further 12 minutes would be sufficient time for him to cover the remaining distance IMO.