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Silkywhiskers

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Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2014, 11:02:57 PM »
Ha!

I remember clearly going to kindergarten and sneaking in to the teachers office with Glenn Burke to have a sneaky strum of her guitar.

I remember they never had real birthday cake, but one made out of a cornflake box.

I remember being six months old and being photographed by a guy who came to the house.  I remember what room the photo was taken in, also the toy I am shown holding had a pink front and a blue back, but only the pink shows in the photo.

I remember my embarrasment at being forced to attend kindy with a handkerchief pinned to my dress.

Yep 4 year olds cant remember jack.

Offline sadie

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2014, 12:10:23 AM »
Ha!

I remember clearly going to kindergarten and sneaking in to the teachers office with Glenn Burke to have a sneaky strum of her guitar.

I remember they never had real birthday cake, but one made out of a cornflake box.

I remember being six months old and being photographed by a guy who came to the house.  I remember what room the photo was taken in, also the toy I am shown holding had a pink front and a blue back, but only the pink shows in the photo.

I remember my embarrasment at being forced to attend kindy with a handkerchief pinned to my dress.

Yep 4 year olds cant remember jack.

Well you haven't been subjected to mind control

Remarkable memory you have from 6 months old .... Wow !

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 02:27:35 AM »
You are off again, aren't you Icabod?  Cant resist it can you?

Now you have the cites perhaps you will apologise

As if !!

True to form, everyone else is Wrong, Crazed, or Paranoid instead of Team McCann.

Offline sadie

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2014, 02:42:45 AM »
True to form, everyone else is Wrong, Crazed, or Paranoid instead of Team McCann.
I feel sure thta Icabod can speak for himself

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2014, 02:44:04 AM »
I feel sure thta Icabod can speak for himself

Who said he couldnt?

Offline John

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2014, 03:36:43 AM »
Very enigmatic,John; do you mean alive and kicking in "the lawless hinterland" (yawn) or the other possibility?

I fear the signs are not good,   8(8-))
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2014, 01:09:32 PM »
True to form, everyone else is Wrong, Crazed, or Paranoid instead of Team McCann.

This is true.  Glad we agree on that.

Offline sadie

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2014, 01:43:22 PM »
Quote from: Silkywhiskers on March 23, 2014, 02:27:35 AM
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True to form, everyone else is Wrong, Crazed, or Paranoid instead of Team McCann.


This is true.  Glad we agree on that.

 @)(++(* 8@??)(

Touchee Eleanor !

Offline Carew

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2014, 02:23:11 PM »
Quote from: Silkywhiskers on March 23, 2014, 02:27:35 AM

 @)(++(* 8@??)(

Touchee Eleanor !

Ah..........Glad to see you so cheerful, ssadie......(Feeling smug, rather than bullied and without a voice at the moment, then?)

Jolly good show!

Offline Carana

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2014, 03:21:17 PM »
No, I mean a 'party' with sinister goings-on. A close ring of people who would need collectively to keep their dirty secrets.

Can't think of any other  situation one would risk bringing Madeleine into.

I do accept that if Madeleine is alive she is most probably unrecognisable - by what process I do not know - but nonetheless, how could a person risk bringing her into a public space?

By behaving normally to the outside world. Whatever that creep's name was who had a daughter with Amanda (US case)... who would have suspected an abnormal situation?

stephen25000

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Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2014, 09:06:52 PM »
True to form, everyone else is Wrong, Crazed, or Paranoid instead of Team McCann.

You got it one.

Some people seem to enjoy their fantasies though, and that is very sad.

Offline Anna

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2014, 09:49:34 PM »
By behaving normally to the outside world. Whatever that creep's name was who had a daughter with Amanda (US case)... who would have suspected an abnormal situation?

Amanda Berry and Castro......Is that the one?
Really bad! He only lasted a short time in prison where he was sentenced to life.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Silkywhiskers

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Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2014, 09:49:52 PM »
You got it one.

Some people seem to enjoy their fantasies though, and that is very sad.

Is it just me, or is the tone of Team McCann disturbing?

Crowing over missed opportunities (the cancelled reconstruction) imagined failures of the dogs, DNA etc -

They seem to be more concerned with being "right" than with one tiny little girl who has been lost.


Offline Brietta

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2014, 11:43:33 PM »
Madeleine McCann: more than 50 new leads
 
More than 50 potential new leads into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann surfaced last night as details of a previously unknown police file were released.
 
Caroline Gammell in Portimao
7:20AM GMT 03 Mar 2010

Scores of sightings were reported after the Portuguese police formally closed their investigation in July 2008 but the majority were not followed up.
The 2,000 page dossier contains hundreds of witness statements, photographs and unsolved lines of inquiry.
The sightings ranged from Europe to the west coast of the US, Hong Kong and Australasia and were passed on by independent witnesses and international police forces.
 
Madeleine was three when she vanished from her family’s apartment in the Algarve resort town of Praia da Luz in May 2007.
Her parents Kate and Gerry, both 41, have fought to keep their daughter’s plight in the spotlight, hiring their own private investigators to continue the search.

They only discovered the existence of the Portuguese police file last month during their court battle against Goncalo Amaral, the disgraced detective who tried to publish a book accusing the couple of covering up their daughter’s death.
 
The extensive dossier was released by the Portuguese authorities in Portimao yesterday after a request by The Daily Telegraph and includes:
 
:: Information about a British-registered white Mercedes box van which travelled on a ferry from Tarifa to Tangiers to Morocco from Spain with false number plates in the week Madeleine went missing. Its driver could not be traced

:: CCTV footage of a young girl resembling Madeleine which was taken in a supermarket in New Zealand in December 2007.

:: Repeated sightings of a girl who looked like Madeleine in Gent, Kortrijk and Bruges in Belgium in November 2008.

:: Information about a girl similar to Madeleine wearing a pyjama top similar to the one she was wearing when she disappeared who was with an “unkempt” couple in Agua Marina, near Murcia in Spain on May 15, 2007.

:: Reports in October 2008 of a girl matching Madeleine’s description being dragged along a road towards Faro airport on May 3, 2007 – the night she disappeared.

:: An account from lorry driver Michel Guidard who saw how a young girl who looked like Madeleine wearing a dirty yellow jumper and naked from the waist down being held at gunpoint at a motorway toll on the A20 near Paris in August 2008.

:: Photographs from the internet uncovered by a female French detective showing images of sexual abuse which involved a girl resembling Madeleine.

The previously unseen CCTV footage from New Zealand was sent to the Portuguese police by Interpol in Wellington in July 2008, just as they closed their investigation.
A female security guard at a supermarket in Dunedin, on the south island, thought she saw Madeleine on December 6, 2007.
She said the girl and the man holding her hand had British accents. Attempts to identify them failed and the information was passed to the Portuguese.
A hand-written note on the papers in the file said: “This has been checked by PJ and has no relevance to this investigation.”

The McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, are furious that they were not told about the leads at the time and that they were not followed up to their satisfaction.

After successfully blocking the publication of Mr Amaral’s book The Truth of the Lie last month, Mrs McCann said: “There are instances where information which we think is very credible and worthy of information has not been actioned.
“We’re gutted, it’s absolutely shocking and difficult. Some of the information handed in was very credible, it’s heartbreaking to know that it seems to end there.”
 
Mr McCann was angered by Inspector Ricardo Paiva, their former liaison officer, who was responsible for collating any information that came into the police about Madeleine after the formal Portuguese investigation came to an end.
He said: “Inspector Paiva believes Madeleine is dead. How can he investigate thoroughly if he believes that?
“We know now there is a lot of information just filed away – and that is not acceptable.
“Once the file has been closed, what has actually been done? Next to nothing.”
 
Isabel Duarte, the couple’s solicitor, asked to see the police file after Inspector Paiva mentioned it during the court case.
“It is a disgrace that none of this information was given to Kate and Gerry. Some of the photos are shockingly similar to Madeleine.
“Every piece was treated the same way – Ricardo Paiva writes on it ‘this is not relevant to the investigation’.
 
“I said to him ‘How can you find a person when you are not looking for them?’”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/7353737/Madeleine-McCann-more-than-50-new-leads.html

With reference to the early sightings of Madeleine – and I know that it was possible for reported sightings to be for the same day and in different countries and continents – of those which were investigated, how thoroughly was that carried out?
I know that a New Zealand sighting was eliminated using a DNA test. 
Does anyone know if tests were done in the sighting in Belgium or did the police just take the gentleman’s word for it that the child was his daughter and her Moroccan nanny.

 
Even Kate and Gerry McCann could not tell from CCTV footage whether the girl was their long-lost child. Previously they have always known immediately it was not her.
But now Belgian police have said a man has come forward to say the girl is his daughter and that she was out with her nanny.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/fresh-heartache-for-mccanns-as-police-say-belgian-sighting-is-not-madeleine-6874533.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Are the phantom sightings of Madeleine simply a forlorn hope ?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2014, 12:32:34 AM »
And so it starts again.

Mr McCann was angered by Inspector Ricardo Paiva, their former liaison officer, who was responsible for collating any information that came into the police about Madeleine after the formal Portuguese investigation came to an end.
He said: “Inspector Paiva believes Madeleine is dead. How can he investigate thoroughly if he believes that?
“We know now there is a lot of information just filed away – and that is not acceptable.
“Once the file has been closed, what has actually been done? Next to nothing.”

Maybe Gerry should go and suck on his lollipop.

"We were actually trying to understand if it was really a demand for ransom. We were trying to negotiate with that individual who was in Holland. Us Portuguese who were there and the English, we watched it in stupefaction. He was sitting there with a lollipop laughing on the phone and we were all waiting. Completely detached from what was going on and about to happen. Maybe it was his way of reacting to that tension, maybe it's justifiable but to us, we were shocked. We were searching for his daughter, doing our job." (G. Amaral)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.