Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?

[Mr Gray]

Of course there was the possibility without the alerts.That's why the dogs were recommended - to check out the possibility. The dogs came and said 'yes, something happened here'. Now the possibility is stronger than before the dogs came.

The dogs did not say yes...grime did not say yes... You are misguided

[stephen25000]

What was Eddie barking at?

The toy?

Or something else?

Why as I have asked you before don't you ask Grime himself ?

[Mr Gray]

Why as I have asked you before don't you ask Grime himself ?

Don't be silly
Grime has refused to answer questions

[Alfred R Jones]

Of course there was the possibility without the alerts.That's why the dogs were recommended - to check out the possibility. The dogs came and said 'yes, something happened here'. Now the possibility is stronger than before the dogs came.

What did they say happened?

[ferryman]

Here, again, is the link to the acpo dog-training manual I gave earlier.

http://www.dyfed-powys.police.uk/media/1817/police_dog_manual_of_guidance_2011_foi_version.pdf

Its section on human remains dogs begins on page 110 (section 24).

According to an FOI answer given by South Yorkshire Police, Eddie was trained according to the precepts laid out in that manual for training dogs to detect human remains.

Who would like to find where, in it that section, it says we send dogs to America to be trained on human remains?

[Alice Purjorick]

If the people who promote Eddie's ability to bark ex cathedra were correct Dr Kate McCann would have been watching the Portuguese sky from behind bars.

The fact she is not would appear to indicate they are somewhat in error if not entirely misguided.

I don't understand why Eddie would bark at a chair that once belonged to a bishop.

[Mr Gray]

I don't understand why Eddie would bark at a chair that once belonged to a bishop.

eddie will bark at anything if he's bored enough and wants to go home

[G-Unit]

The dogs did not say yes...grime did not say yes... You are misguided

If the dogs don't alert that's a no. the opposite of no is?

[ferryman]

If the dogs don't alert that's a no. the opposite of no is?

(eg) Gerry's blood on the ignition key ....

[Mr Gray]

If the dogs don't alert that's a no. the opposite of no is?

so when eddie didn't alert to cuddle cat that was a no...when he did that was a yes...according to you...dogs don't speak...they alert...we don't know what those alerts mean.....but you think you do...that's where you are mistaken

[stephen25000]

Don't be silly
Grime has refused to answer questions

I was being sarcastic.

Well you can hardly blame him, with all the abuse from the mccanns supporters, and more pertinently, if he did comment, it could jeopardize any trial.

[ferryman]

This is why the dogs come to investigate even after a body is found.

BLOOD found in the boot of Meg Walsh's car matched her DNA, her murder trial heard yesterday.

The 35-year-old mother-of one's body was recovered from the River Suir on October 15, 2006 after she had been missing for two weeks.

Michael Burlington, a forensic scientist, yesterday told Dublin's Circuit Criminal Court that DNA matching both Ms Walsh and Mr O'Brien was discovered in the boot of her car.

Her blood was also found on the hardboard spare wheel cover, which had also been thrown away and sections cut from both the hardboard and the mat which were found in a nearby housing estate.
There were also patches of Ms Walsh's blood on the back of the driver's seat and the inside of the driver's door.

No blood was found in a detailed search of the house or the garden shed or dog house.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/murder-trial-is-told-megs-dna-matched-blood-in-car-26442044.html

Not routinely.

Eddie might be able to detect the scent of blood but he can't (or couldn't! RIP) tell you where it was.

The confined and limited space of a vehicle is maybe a little different, but in general, no.  He wouldn't be able to do that.

Otherwise, what would be the point of training a dog like Keela?

[Mr Gray]

Not routinely.

Eddie might be able to detect the scent of blood but he can't (or couldn't! RIP) tell you where it was.

The confined and limited space of a vehicle is maybe a little different, but in general, no.  He wouldn't be able to do that.

Otherwise, what would be the point of training a dog like Keela?

k

I was being sarcastic.

Well you can hardly blame him, with all the abuse from the mccanns supporters, and more pertinently, if he did comment, it could jeopardize any trial.

Jeopardise any trial
So what was amaral doing when he wrote his book

[G-Unit]

I don't understand why Eddie would bark at a chair that once belonged to a bishop.

 

[ferryman]

Here, again, is the link to the acpo dog-training manual I gave earlier.

http://www.dyfed-powys.police.uk/media/1817/police_dog_manual_of_guidance_2011_foi_version.pdf

Its section on human remains dogs begins on page 110 (section 24).

According to an FOI answer given by South Yorkshire Police, Eddie was trained according to the precepts laid out in that manual for training dogs to detect human remains.

Who would like to find where, in it that section, it says we send dogs to America to be trained on human remains?

Replying to my own post.

Any takers?