Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?

[jassi]

Well I hope it's locked away somewhere with his solicitor in case anything happens to him.  He's no spring chicken, and the way things are going we could all be dead before The McCanns ever get tried.

I fear we might all be dead by then   

[pathfinder73]

That's because Eddie wasn't a Cadaver Dog.  Just a Victim Recovery Dog who was supposedly Enhanced somewhat.  Although no one is quite sure how, except it involved pigs and pig meat in some way.

Very enhanced  FBI Body Farm doesn't use pigs but human cadavers e.g. buried and hidden underwater.

[Eleanor]

I fear we might all be dead by then   

Take it from me, we will be.  And The McCanns as well I expect.

[pegasus]

It has been suggested that the reason EVRD Eddie reacted to Kate's clothing was because she had contact with one or more cadavers prior to going to Praia da Luz.....

Yes but that suggestion illustrates one of the basic misinterpretations by humans of what Eddie actually indicated.
Eddie did indicated the clothes.
Eddie did not indicate the person.
IMO it is obvious that, if the clothes came into contact with a source of that scent, it was in the wardrobe..
Which doesn't incriminate her at all. Not one iota.

[faithlilly]

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/11116691.More_human_remains_found__high_up_in_a_tree__during_police_search_of_Meyrick_Park_golf_course/?ref=ar

[Carana]

Yes but that suggestion illustrates one of the basic misinterpretations by humans of what Eddie actually indicated.
Eddie did indicated the clothes.
Eddie did not indicate the person.
IMO it is obvious that, if the clothes came into contact with a source of that scent, it was in the wardrobe..
Which doesn't incriminate her at all. Not one iota.

Who did the tiny blue shorts belong to? They were the first item on the top left-hand side of the wall that he threw up in the area and barked at. Why is this item not on the list?

[pathfinder73]

Yes but that suggestion illustrates one of the basic misinterpretations by humans of what Eddie actually indicated.
Eddie did indicated the clothes.
Eddie did not indicate the person.
IMO it is obvious that, if the clothes came into contact with a source of that scent, it was in the wardrobe..
Which doesn't incriminate her at all. Not one iota.

That doesn't explain Eddie's bark alert behind the sofa that was pushed up against the window. If you were looking for someone you would look behind the sofa not push it up against the wall - it's like you were in a panic and hiding the place where something happened to me? Look at the crumpled curtains and a map opened on the table >@@(*&) Also a camera -  was that brought to the table and/or taken as possible evidence?

I think most open-minded people can look at this scene and know something is not quite right and with bark alerts in the suspicious looking place where the sofa is then it doesn't take a genius to work out that any cadaver was most probably in that spot.

[sadie]

That doesn't explain Eddie's bark alert behind the sofa that was pushed up against the window. If you were looking for someone you would look behind the sofa not push it up against the wall - it's like you were in a panic and hiding the place where something happened to me? Look at the crumpled curtains and a map opened on the table >@@(*&) Also a camera -  was that brought to the table and/or taken as possible evidence?

I think most open-minded people can look at this scene and know something is not quite right and with bark alerts in the suspicious looking place where the sofa is then it doesn't take a genius to work out that any cadaver was most probably in that spot.

Pathfinder, Eddie also alerts to dried blood.  There were spots of dried blood on the wall there, weren't there?

[pathfinder73]

Sadie, Why don't you use some intelligence for once?

[sadie]

Sadie, Why don't you use some intelligence for once?

I beg your pardon?  Can you elucidate please?

[Estuarine]

Cumulatively we have over 900 posts on woofers.
Does the person who makes the 1000th post receive a prize?
Have we reached a conclusion?
Will Snowy and Jock rescue Dick?.
Tune in tomorrow same time same place on the dial.

[stephen25000]

Cumulatively we have over 900 posts on woofers.
Does the person who makes the 1000th post receive a prize?
Have we reached a conclusion?
Will Snowy and Jock rescue Dick?.
Tune in tomorrow same time same place on the dial.

 

[stephen25000]

Can I claim it now?

A Durian perhaps ?   

[Brietta]

Very enhanced  FBI Body Farm doesn't use pigs but human cadavers e.g. buried and hidden underwater.

Pathfinder, I have searched for reference to Eddie receiving training at USA body farms and have been unable to find anything positive.  I have seen a poster elsewhere who [claimed to have] worked with Martin Grime - who was quite dismissive of Eddie's EVRD status.


[Editor note: Unsubstantiated claim so treat with caution]

[ferryman]

Eddie was trained according to standard ACPO guidelines. 

South Yorkshire Police confirmed that in an FOI answer.  I've read its section on cadaver dog training. 

It says nothing about sending dogs to America.

http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/uniformed/2011/201103UOPDogsMoG1.1.pdf