Author Topic: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?  (Read 340832 times)

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Offline jassi

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1035 on: June 03, 2014, 01:46:02 PM »
I'm not sure that's particularly significant. What will be significant is if they find something.

Well of course, but in order to do that, they have to be deployed.
It's not that long ago that some on here were doubting that these dogs would be deployed.
The fact that they are indicates that police are searching for what these dogs detect. Whether they find it is another matter.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1036 on: June 03, 2014, 01:57:33 PM »
I'm not sure that's particularly significant. What will be significant is if they find something.

A member posted that s/he was certain that if victim recovery dogs were to be deployed, each dog would have its own handler.  That seems to have been an accurate statement.
Apologies, I remember the post but not who the poster is. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline misty

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1037 on: June 03, 2014, 02:08:44 PM »
All the press focus is on the dig site. Who knows where Redwood is & what is going on elsewhere?
Maybe Grime is at OC with a dog!

Offline jassi

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1038 on: June 03, 2014, 02:14:47 PM »
According to the Mail, who have a photo, Redwood is on site and advising the searchers.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1039 on: June 03, 2014, 03:43:59 PM »
So is it a big deal?
Why are people so concerned with trivia?
The significant thing is that the dogs are there and doing their stuff.
You may not care that their are people making spurious claims on this forum, but some people do, ok?

Offline jassi

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1040 on: June 03, 2014, 03:45:55 PM »
You may not care that their are people making spurious claims on this forum, but some people do, ok?

What spurious claims are we talking about?  Does it actually change anything?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1041 on: June 03, 2014, 03:52:05 PM »
What spurious claims are we talking about?  Does it actually change anything?
Claims that Grime is involved in searching PdL with his dogs.  Of course it changes nothing, but mischievous posts designed to plant misinformation on a forum wishing to take itself seriously is not particularly desirable, I'm sure you'd agree.

Offline jassi

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1042 on: June 03, 2014, 03:54:20 PM »
Claims that Grime is involved in searching PdL with his dogs.  Of course it changes nothing, but mischievous posts designed to plant misinformation on a forum wishing to take itself seriously is not particularly desirable, I'm sure you'd agree.

Probably just made to wind up certain people who are as obsessed with Grime as they are with Amaral.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline faithlilly

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1043 on: June 03, 2014, 04:10:37 PM »
Here you go Alfred, as requested.

Quick question Alfred. Do you believe that Madeleine not leaving the apartment alive and cadaver dog Edfie alerting in the same apartment are mutually exclusive events ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1044 on: June 03, 2014, 04:22:17 PM »
Here you go Alfred, as requested.

Quick question Alfred. Do you believe that Madeleine not leaving the apartment alive and cadaver dog Edfie alerting in the same apartment are mutually exclusive events ?


According to grime they may or may not be...and he is the expert...do you think grime is right

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1045 on: June 03, 2014, 04:32:26 PM »
Here you go Alfred, as requested.

Quick question Alfred. Do you believe that Madeleine not leaving the apartment alive and cadaver dog Edfie alerting in the same apartment are mutually exclusive events ?

Who knows?  I don't.   

Offline faithlilly

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1046 on: June 03, 2014, 04:45:53 PM »
Who knows?  I don't.   

So you are open to the suggestion that the two are linked ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1047 on: June 03, 2014, 04:50:36 PM »
So you are open to the suggestion that the two are linked ?
It's a possibility I guess.  We shall just have to see shan't we? 

Offline faithlilly

Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1048 on: June 03, 2014, 06:09:45 PM »
It's a possibility I guess.  We shall just have to see shan't we?

Thank you for your answer Alfred. So if you are open to the possibility that the cadaver dogs alert and SY announcement that Madeleine may well be dead you must also be open, because of the time that needs to elapse before cadaver odour is at a detectable level, to the McCann's involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?
« Reply #1049 on: June 03, 2014, 06:13:44 PM »
Thank you for your answer Alfred. So if you are open to the possibility that the cadaver dogs alert and SY announcement that Madeleine may well be dead you must also be open, because of the time that needs to elapse before cadaver odour is at a detectable level, to the McCann's involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
  No, I don't think that's very likely but of course it's possible - anything's possible.  Like it's possible that Madeleine was murdered by a man who had killed before or who had an unhealthy interest in dead bodies and who contaminated the apartment with the smell of death.