The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.

[The Singularity]

Ok

1)
If they had gone back, taken part in a reconstitution, cooperated fully & thus, demonstrated their innocence, then the investigation could have continued 7 years ago when, supposedly, there would have been more chance of finding the child alive, even though I reckon she was already brown bread, but that's beside the point.

There is no evidence to suggest that this opnion is accurate or substantiated by any facts. If the investigation was lost then Sotland Yard aren't going to waste time and effort on something they don't have a chance to solve.

2) Duh!

An adroite reply but with only one minor flaw. It's not an answer.

3)They pussied out.

Personal opinion noted however it has no bearing on the reality of the case I'm afraid.

[Albertini]

139 Letter from R. Alves regarding K. McCann's willingness to participate in the reconstruction
09 01 Apensos IX Vol I Page 139
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Public Ministry of Portimao
Case Section
Case 201/07 GALGS


Dear Sir
Public prosecutor


Kate Marie Healy arguida in the case referred to above, having been notified (page 3947) expresses her availability to participate in the reconstruction of the events on the second of the dates suggested, in other words on the 15 and 16th of next May. Her husband, Gerry McCann has also already expressed his availability.

Rogerio Alves
Lawyer

(Sent by email)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RE_ENACTMENT.htm

Yes, we all know this but when you interpret the facts, interpret that the group spoke about the reconstruction, and throw in that (as Clarence helpfully told the world) the lawyers had blocked them from going back you can see that in order to comply with their Arguido status whilst not actually wanting to go back themselves they achieved a blocking through their friends.

[Albertini]

Of any help?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3629.msg140076#msg140076

Nope, that's Kate McCann's replay to the re-enactment in 2008 which was blocked by her lawyers through her friends.

I'm talking about this that Sadie said:

The Mccanns pressed the PJ for a reconstruction at the time of the abduction.

[Carana]

Ok

1)
If they had gone back, taken part in a reconstitution, cooperated fully & thus, demonstrated their innocence, then the investigation could have continued 7 years ago when, supposedly, there would have been more chance of finding the child alive, even though I reckon she was already brown bread, but that's beside the point.

2) Duh!

3)They pussied out.

- How would a reconstruction have demonstrated their innocence, as opposed to merely the possibility that their version was plausible?

- How would it have made the investigation continue, when strict deadlines for investigations in Portugal - in the absence of a new and credible lead - meant that a judicial decision had to be taken very quickly (and had already been extended beyond the norm pending the results of the rogs)?

[Wonderfulspam]

There is no evidence to suggest that this opnion is accurate or substantiated by any facts. If the investigation was lost then Sotland Yard aren't going to waste time and effort on something they don't have a chance to solve.

An adroite reply but with only one minor flaw. It's not an answer.

Personal opinion noted however it has no bearing on the reality of the case I'm afraid.

Well thankyou for your opinions.

Heres a question for you,

Their daughter needed them, were they of any help to her by not going back?

[Wonderfulspam]

- How would a reconstruction have demonstrated their innocence, as opposed to merely the possibility that their version was plausible?

- How would it have made the investigation continue, when strict deadlines for investigations in Portugal - in the absence of a new and credible lead - meant that a judicial decision had to be taken very quickly (and had already been extended beyond the norm pending the results of the rogs)?

Blahdy blah

Their daughter needed them, were they of any help to her by not going back?

[Carana]

Nope, that's Kate McCann's replay to the re-enactment in 2008 which was blocked by her lawyers through her friends.

I'm talking about this that Sadie said:

Ah. OK. I haven't seen that the McCanns pressed for a re-enactment at that time, but why didn't the police do one when most of the protagonists (including waiters, etc., possibly other tourists, residents) would have been there? Wouldn't that have been more logical?

[Carana]

Blahdy blah

Their daughter needed them, were they of any help to her by not going back?

Why wasn't this organised back in early May when most of the people present in the area would have still been around?

[Wonderfulspam]

Why wasn't this organised back in early May when most of the people present in the area would have still been around?

The answers no then.

[Carana]

Yes, we all know this but when you interpret the facts, interpret that the group spoke about the reconstruction, and throw in that (as Clarence helpfully told the world) the lawyers had blocked them from going back you can see that in order to comply with their Arguido status whilst not actually wanting to go back themselves they achieved a blocking through their friends.

I have no doubt that they all questioned the purpose in going back at that late stage. I would have questioned it, particularly if I had been one of the group and had read rubbish posted about me in the PT press for nearly a year. I'd have wondered what they hell the PJ were up to by that stage (with hindsight, I find Rebelo to have been neutral and trying to do his best - but they couldn't have known that).

Jez wasn't nuts about going over and facing a media scrum, either.

[Benice]

I'd still like to know how this reconstruction would be undertaken. No-one has ever offered an explanation? 

 For instance  JT says she left the table 5 or 10 mins after Gerry.    So which time do they use in a reconstruction -12 months later -  5 min or 10 mins? or what if she was wrong and it was actually 7 mins.    Jez Wilkins said he spoke to Gerry for 3 to 5 mins - so which time would they use during a reconstruction ?- would Jez and Gerry stand together for 3 mins or 5 mins?    The same problem arises with everyone else who could only give approximate times.     

Would they have to keep doing the recon over and over again using all the possible different times? 

The number of different permutations that are possible taking into account all of these approximate times are incalculable.   

Normally in reconstructions accurate timing is not that important, but in this case it was imperative that they recreated their exact movements because of the small window of opportunity which was made available by them for an abduction.      And that is the one thing none of them could  do - except Gerry with his 9.05 definite time.

With so many people all only able to give approx. times, it simply isn't possible to guarantee recreating their movements with any accuracy.      And even if they could - how could it prove the McCanns 'innocence' - I've never quite understood that.   'Innocence' of what?

On the other hand SY with their super duper technology could simply key All of the information (times, distances etc etc )  into a computer programme and it would do all the different permutations for them and confirm whether or not it was possible that there was a window of opportunity for Madeleine to be abducted.   Clearly it was  possible - as Andy Redwood confirmed.   Also much quicker, much cheaper and without the anguish of having to relive that night again which returning to Portugal and physically taking part would inevitably invoke.

[Carana]

The answers no then.

No, to what? The McCanns didn't refuse to go back - I just pointed out that their lawyer had written to state their availability.

[Wonderfulspam]

No, to what? The McCanns didn't refuse to go back - I just pointed out that their lawyer had written to state their availability.

Did they go back?

[Carana]

Did they go back?

It was dropped. The investigation had already been extended beyond the norm and what would it have proved? I have found no indication of anyone being requested to return aside from the T9 + Jez... What about the waiters? Murat? Other guests? Other tourists? Residents?

[jassi]

Why wasn't this organised back in early May when most of the people present in the area would have still been around?

It would have been far better had it been done on the Friday evening following her mysterious disappearance, when the majority of the holidaymakers were still there.

I have no doubt that the PJ done so they would have been branded as insensitive.

In the end, plans for a reconstruction were dropped due to lack of cooperation. Given that British police have the capability for computer simulations (so I am told), I find it very surprising that this facility wasn't offered when the arrangements for a physical reconstruction collapsed.