The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.

[Alfred R Jones]

Untrue on so many levels.  Everything has not been done because the tapas group thwarted the investigators...  of that they are most deffo GUILTY!!

Do you actually believe that the Met feel that their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance has been thwarted by the McCanns themselves? 

[Angelo222]

Do you actually believe that the Met feel that their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance has been thwarted by the McCanns themselves?

Best ask the Met that question but I know what I believe to be the truth.

[Wonderfulspam]

Best ask the Met that question but I know what I believe to be the truth.

I know what is the truth, because it's that obvious what the truth is.

Belief doesn't come into it.

[Matthew Wyse]

How can any 'issues'  be cleared up unless the 10 people involved could faithfully and accurately repeat their exact movements from one night - 12 months prior - at the exact time they had made them? 

 It would only take one of them to be a couple of minutes wrong with their recollection of the times for the recon to fail.

All an attempted recon would have proved IMO is that it is absolutely impossible for 10 people to re-create their movements without the precision of memory which, in this particular case, would be a vital requirement  - in order for an accurate recon to be achieved.     Apart from GM -  the one thing they could not remember were precise times  - and no self-respecting policeman would expect them to in those circumstances.

My apologies for not coming back sooner Benice.

It works very well in practise since you have at your disposal a group of people who have shared an experience and are being asked to relive it. Inconsistencies can usually be ruled out but massive gaps can be exposed at the same time. It is exactly like the confrontation which is used by the police in Portugal to iron out discrepancies.

[John]

I think the question should be why Dr Amaral declined to carry out a reconstruction in the early days of the inquiry when there was some chance new information which might have led to Madeleine's return or at least finding what happened to her might have been forthcoming.

Gonçalo Amaral already answered that question. He stated that the media presence in the town made a reconstitution unworkable.  Clearly, the PJ was starved of the necessary resources at the time otherwise they could have kicked the media out of town and did a reconstitution.

[John]

My apologies for not coming back sooner Benice.

It works very well in practise since you have at your disposal a group of people who have shared an experience and are being asked to relive it. Inconsistencies can usually be ruled out but massive gaps can be exposed at the same time. It is exactly like the confrontation which is used by the police in Portugal to iron out discrepancies.

This technique is not unique to Portugal.  Even in the UK witnesses are often brought back to the scene of a crime to reenact it or advise on a reconstruction.  It's amazing how much people can recall sometimes when they are taken back to the scene of an incident.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Gonçalo Amaral already answered that question. He stated that the media presence in the town made a reconstitution unworkable.  Clearly, the PJ was starved of the necessary resources at the time otherwise they could have kicked the media out of town and did a reconstitution.

Yes I agree with that John. However, that should not have been a 'there will never be a reconstruction' ever scenario.

When the PJ did request one, the McCanns (leaving no stone unturned) did refuse to go back and take part.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes I agree with that John. However, that should not have been a 'there will never be a reconstruction' ever scenario.

When the PJ did request one, the McCanns (leaving no stone unturned) did refuse to go back and take part.

Their friends did.

[Miss Taken Identity]

«Portuguese Journalist: A reconstruction. If you volunteer to do a reconstruction wouldn't that open the case?

Gerry McCann: We want to create information that will lead us to us helping find Madeleine.

Portuguese Journalist: That will help Madeleine. Don't you think so?

Gerry McCann: Well if it does then, you know, we will participate.

Portuguese Journalist: You are in Lisbon. You could take that step today. Ask for the case to be reopened and do a reconstruction with your friends.

Gerry McCann: We are going round in circles. We would be more than happy for the case to be reopened.»
Excerpt from: Exclusive Video: McCanns Press Conference, February 12, 2010  (http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/, 16/10.2014)


Hmm  enbolden text...everything? could you not have brought that ole efit?

[Brietta]

Wonder if Roderick MacDonald or any of the not yet identified men who were seen hanging around in the vicinity of 5a immediately prior to Madeleine’s abduction will participate in a reconstruction of events?
Not forgetting Smithman and Tannerman.

I cannot believe we are discussing timelines of people getting up and down from a table to check on their children when so much is going on in Madeleine’s case at the moment.

In my opinion the activities of those at the table in the tapas restaurant are relevant only in trying to pin down a time when an abductor would have been able to enter 5a (and the PJ and the Met haven't carried out that diligence?) discussion of a reconstruction at this remove is risible.

One individual who could have been a key witness had her statement been taken in a more professional manner and closer in time to the event is dead.

Time to move on from redundant suspicion of the past … the tapas seven can’t take the case forward … perhaps present and future suspects can.

[Eleanor]

What had changed in May 2008?  Same time, same place.  And probably even more Media.

Gez Wilkins had refused, and had nothing to do with The McCanns.  A big fail before it even got off the ground.

[Brietta]

A reconstruction is not going to go anywhere near progressing Madeleine’s case at this remove; modern policing methods and forensics are the only chance of getting anywhere.

I think it would be worth remembering that the police know much more than is in the public domain and neither the PJ or SY have made the slightest suggestion that a reconstruction is required.

>>snip<<
Six separate DNA samples were found in Madeleine’s bedroom, with five being ruled out having been identified as belonging to McCann family members.

The sixth sample remains unaccounted for.

According to The Sun: “Talks will also be held on testing new DNA collected from three prime suspects in July.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/16/madeleine-mccann-news-dna-apartment-holiday_n_5996266.html

[Matthew Wyse]

«Portuguese Journalist: A reconstruction. If you volunteer to do a reconstruction wouldn't that open the case?

Gerry McCann: We want to create information that will lead us to us helping find Madeleine.

Portuguese Journalist: That will help Madeleine. Don't you think so?

Gerry McCann: Well if it does then, you know, we will participate.

Portuguese Journalist: You are in Lisbon. You could take that step today. Ask for the case to be reopened and do a reconstruction with your friends.

Gerry McCann: We are going round in circles. We would be more than happy for the case to be reopened.»
Excerpt from: Exclusive Video: McCanns Press Conference, February 12, 2010  (http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/, 16/10.2014)


Hmm  enbolden text...everything? could you not have brought that ole efit?

Thank you for that quote MTI I had forgotten about those comments.  He had no intention of going back no matter what he was saying behind the scenes.  Fair play to that reporter for getting to the truth of it all.

[ferryman]

Good grief!

Are some people still droning on about the "reconstitution"?

[ferryman]

Wonder if Roderick MacDonald or any of the not yet identified men who were seen hanging around in the vicinity of 5a immediately prior to Madeleine’s abduction will participate in a reconstruction of events?
Not forgetting Smithman and Tannerman.

I cannot believe we are discussing timelines of people getting up and down from a table to check on their children when so much is going on in Madeleine’s case at the moment.

In my opinion the activities of those at the table in the tapas restaurant are relevant only in trying to pin down a time when an abductor would have been able to enter 5a (and the PJ and the Met haven't carried out that diligence?) discussion of a reconstruction at this remove is risible.

One individual who could have been a key witness had her statement been taken in a more professional manner and closer in time to the event is dead.

Time to move on from redundant suspicion of the past … the tapas seven can’t take the case forward … perhaps present and future suspects can.

Good post.