The changing witness statements for the day that Madeleine disappeared.

[Albertini]

I will make it easier for you...I will bow to your superior knowledge if the McCanns are even arrested...something even the pj didn't have the evidence to do

Well before we get to that can you at least try and answer the points in my post first?

[Mr Gray]

Well before we get to that can you at least try and answer the points in my post first?

I don't really see the point. To me it's not significant. I look at the bigger picture and for the tapas to be lying they have to be involved ...the whole idea is totally ridiculous

[Albertini]

I don't really see the point. To me it's not significant. I look at the bigger picture and for the tapas to be lying they have to be involved ...the whole idea is totally ridiculous

The fact you do not regard a change of timings by three key witnesses all together in the same round of interviews and in direct contradiction to their earlier statements (and in the case of Payne in direct contradiction to his wife's statement) which were much nearer to the event and all without explanation as to why their timings changed relating to the period of the key few hours before the reported disappearance as significant or worthy of explanation

And the fact you have arrived at a conclusion as to why this might be without asking them why they changed

All together add up to make you a lousy copper.

I hope if i ever commit a crime you would do the investigating. Your ability to take everything at face value and not ask difficult questions would certainly be a big help.

[Mr Gray]

The fact you do not regard a change of timings by three key witnesses all together in the same round of interviews and in direct contradiction to their earlier statements (and in the case of Payne in direct contradiction to his wife's statement) which were much nearer to the event and all without explanation as to why their timings changed relating to the period of the key few hours before the reported disappearance as significant or worthy of explanation

And the fact you have arrived at a conclusion as to why this might be without asking them why they changed

All together add up to make you a lousy copper.

I hope if i ever commit a crime you would do the investigating. Your ability to take everything at face value and not ask difficult questions would certainly be a big help.

So redwood must be a lousy copper

[Albertini]

So redwood must be a lousy copper

Nope, but on the evidence of your logic in the last few posts you are a lousy investigator.

[John]

Am I right in thinking that the changing witness statements relate mainly to the 3rd May 2007 being the day that Madeleine disappeared?

If I recall from the statements of D Payne, K McCann and G McCann, the events that evening were reported differently too.  Given that the children's routine also changed that evening, one could be forgiven for being suspicious.

[icabodcrane]

Am I right in thinking that the changing witness statements relate mainly to the 3rd May 2007 being the day that Madeleine disappeared?

If I recall from the statements of D Payne, K McCann and G McCann, the events that evening were reported differently too.  Given that the children's routine also changed that evening, one could be forgiven for being suspicious.

Well,  ex MI5 operative Henri Exton, in his  ( suppressed )  report on the case, expressed concern at the  'anomalies'  in the statements given by the McCanns and their chums   ...   and Britain's foremost criminal profiler,  Lee Rainbow  (  who, too,  presented a report on the case  )  also expressed concerns at the  'contradictions'  in Gerry McCann's statements   (  going as far as to say they  might lead us to suspect a homicide !  ) 

So I think it's fair to assume the changing witness statements have not gone unnoticed by those investigating the case

[ferryman]

Well,  ex MI5 operative Henri Exton, in his  ( suppressed )  report on the case, expressed concern at the  'anomalies'  in the statements given by the McCanns and their chums   ...   and Britain's foremost criminal profiler,  Lee Rainbow  (  who, too,  presented a report on the case  )  also expressed concerns at the  'contradictions'  in Gerry McCann's statements   (  going as far as to say they  might lead us to suspect a homicide !  ) 

So I think it's fair to assume the changing witness statements have not gone unnoticed by those investigating the case

Lee Rainbow  (  who, too,  presented a report on the case  )  also expressed concerns at the  'contradictions'  in Gerry McCann's statements   (  going as far as to say they  might lead us to suspect a homicide !  ) 

Nope.

One of the papers got hold of Rainbow's report.  He never said any such thing.

“It should be stressed that there is no evidence to directly support an involvement of the family, yet given the absence of decisive evidence to prove the contrary, such a scenario has to be explored.”

Lee Rainbow.

[pegasus]

IMO all of the witness statements up to and including gnr arrival are likely to be truthful.

[jassi]

IMO all of the witness statements up to and including gnr arrival are likely to be truthful.

What leads you to that conclusion?

Do you mean all the witness statements, or just those of the Tapas group?

[Benice]

What leads you to that conclusion?

Do you mean all the witness statements, or just those of the Tapas group?

IMO everyone who was interviewed told the truth to the best of their recollections.  However it is plain from the 'discrepancies' in many of them - (not just the group's) - that they cannot all be correct.

All this proves IMO is that everything the experts say about memories not being tape recorders and how vastly different the recollections of different people all honestly recalling the same incident can be  - is true.

'Lying' doesn't come into it.

[stephen25000]

IMO everyone who was interviewed told the truth to the best of their recollections.  However it is plain from the 'discrepancies' in many of them - (not just the group's) - that they cannot all be correct.

All this proves IMO is that everything the experts say about memories not being tape recorders and how vastly different the recollections of different people all honestly recalling the same incident can be  - is true.

'Lying' doesn't come into it.

You do not know that.

That is your opinion.

You do not know whether  the mccanns and associates told the truth or lied.

[jassi]

You do not know that.

That is your opinion.

You do not know whether  the mccanns and associates told the truth or lied.

Absolutely.
The only people who know anything are those who were personally involved - and  the investigating police, though the latter may have difficulty proving the truth.

[Benice]

Absolutely.
The only people who know anything are those who were personally involved - and  the investigating police, though the latter may have difficulty proving the truth.

It would appear that the investigating police forces concerned believe the McCanns and their friends were telling the truth - as none of them are considered to be suspects in this case.    As the experts in this case - they will not have come to that decision lightly IMO.

(duty calls - must dash)

[pathfinder73]

It would appear that the investigating police forces concerned believe the McCanns and their friends were telling the truth - as none of them are considered to be suspects in this case.    As the experts in this case - they will not have come to that decision lightly IMO.

(duty calls - must dash)

They will never solve this case then? That would please many strangely I think. Not good for the yards rep!