Author Topic: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?  (Read 31225 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #120 on: April 13, 2014, 09:24:34 AM »
is any of the information re Smith reliable

i.e. There isn't any evidence that Mr. Smith changed his mind.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #121 on: April 13, 2014, 09:27:16 AM »
i.e. There isn't any evidence that Mr. Smith changed his mind.

i.e. there isn't any evidence that smith saw the suspects face...but of course as Gerry is not a suspect...it appears SY have ruled him out

stephen25000

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Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2014, 09:33:53 AM »
i.e. there isn't any evidence that smith saw the suspects face...but of course as Gerry is not a suspect...it appears SY have ruled him out

It is already well known and documented what Mr. Smith saw the first time and what made him think in all probability, that the man he saw carrying a child was none other than gerry mccann.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #123 on: April 13, 2014, 09:41:44 AM »
It is already well known and documented what Mr. Smith saw the first time and what made him think in all probability, that the man he saw carrying a child was none other than gerry mccann.

yes I agree Stephen..smith recognised the way the child was carried but never mentioned seeing the face...tht's a fact.....

ferryman

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Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2014, 10:05:27 AM »
In fairnesess, I think he must have seen the man's face, because after he changed hias mind and decided the man was not, after all, Gerry, he produced a very detailed fotofit.

Offline jassi

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2014, 10:09:26 AM »
He says he thought it was Gerry by the way he carried the child...doesn't mention seeing his face...it seems he has changed his mind now and SY do not believe it was Gerry.....

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There was also an uncomfortable complication with Smith’s account. He had originally told the police that he had “recognised something” about the way Gerry McCann carried one of his children which reminded him of the man he had seen in Praia da Luz.

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.
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Precisely - it doesn't say whether he did or he didn't.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2014, 10:16:04 AM »
So we have statements from Mr. Smith saying he had a strong impression that it was Gerry and reports saying he changed his mind.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Benice

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #127 on: April 13, 2014, 10:18:31 AM »
He says he thought it was Gerry by the way he carried the child...doesn't mention seeing his face...it seems he has changed his mind now and SY do not believe it was Gerry.....

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There was also an uncomfortable complication with Smith’s account. He had originally told the police that he had “recognised something” about the way Gerry McCann carried one of his children which reminded him of the man he had seen in Praia da Luz.

Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry, and Scotland Yard do not consider this a possibility. Last week the McCanns were told officially by the Portuguese authorities that they are not suspects.
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IIRC the Sunday Times retracted a part of that article relating to the Efits and apologised for their error.    They did not retract any part  of the article which claimed that ''Smith has since stressed that he does not believe the man he saw was Gerry''.

My own impression of Mr. Smith is that he was anxious to protect his family from being dragged into the 'media madness' of that time - and was swift to threaten legal proceedings against any newspaper which misquoted him.

IMO it would be reasonable to assume therefore that no such 'complaint' from him had been received by the Sunday Times - otherwise surely they would have retracted that part of the article and apologised to Mr. Smith.

(all from memory so am open to correction).



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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2014, 10:25:42 AM »
Do we have a direct quote from Mr. Smith,or is this all verbatim yet again ?

Verbatim means in exactly the same words as were used originally.


stephen25000

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Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #129 on: April 13, 2014, 10:56:26 AM »
Verbatim means in exactly the same words as were used originally.

jean pierre.

I was referring to the alleged source of Mr. Smith's 'statement'.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2014, 11:01:14 AM »
jean pierre.

I was referring to the alleged source of Mr. Smith's 'statement'.
doesn't make any sense

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2014, 11:07:45 AM »
So we have statements from Mr. Smith saying he had a strong impression that it was Gerry and reports saying he changed his mind.

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stephen25000

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Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #132 on: April 13, 2014, 11:08:55 AM »
doesn't make any sense

Mr. Smith it seems has the good sense to steer clear of the mccanns circus.

He's not the only one either. >@@(*&)

Offline jassi

Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #133 on: April 13, 2014, 11:14:43 AM »
Mr. Smith it seems has the good sense to steer clear of the mccanns circus.

He's not the only one either. >@@(*&)


Well, he did his best, but didn't they come knocking on his door in the shape of Kennedy?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

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Re: Are the Tapas Rogatory statements as released by Duarte Levy genuine?
« Reply #134 on: April 13, 2014, 11:36:24 AM »
So we have statements from Mr. Smith saying he had a strong impression that it was Gerry and reports saying he changed his mind.

Reports?

The clearest indication that he changed his mind is that he agreed to produce e-fits.

Before that, he had been approached by Brian Kennedy (representing the McCanns) to produce an e-fit and had refused.

It is plain common sense that all the time he entertained a notion that the man might have been Gerry, he was not going to produce an e-fit.