The dog alerts to Kates clothing explained as work related.

[Carana]

For anyone who has missed it the full interview which included contributions from our very own Jerry Lawton of the Daily Star.

www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1308/27/ng.01.html


MIKE WALKER Senior Editor "National Enquirer"

"The night she disappeared, the parents had been, as you said, checking on her. They were having dinner with some people about 300 yards away from -- pardon me, about 100 yards, 300 feet away from the room, and they were sitting around a pool. So they could see the room. They were sending somebody over. One of them would go over every 30 minutes or so to check on the children, and then suddenly of course the disappearance.

Now, what happened immediately, when the disappearance was reported, and the police arrived, the first thing the police didn`t do was secure the crime scene. People were walking all over, all around. As Scotland Yard says, you know, destroying what might have been valuable forensic evidence, or maybe not.

The next thing that happened was the police just decided arbitrarily that because both of these people were doctors, one of them a very respected cardiologist and his wife a very respected general practitioner, doctors, they decided what they were doing probably was drugging the kids so that they would stay asleep and not be a bother, and probably that`s what happened here, and she overdosed the kid and the kid died, and so they got rid of the body. Question, Nancy. Where do you get rid of a body? OK? They tried to say that rented car had DNA evidence traced. It was later proven to be wrong, wrong forensic testing. But you know, what did they do? They secretly kept the baby somewhere under the bed in the rental place where they stayed, under police supervision all those days? No. You can`t hide a body like that. Very hot in Portugal that time of year. Bodies decompose very quickly. So there`s in way that anybody can say there`s any evidence that the child had died.

And even when the Spanish -- Portuguese police brought in corpse sniffing dogs, they said we sniffed your car keys and we had a trace of a dead body. There you are. And as the doctor, as the wife pointed out, she said I handled six dead bodies just days ago, before I came to Portugal for my vacation. That`s what I do. I`m a doctor. And so there`s no evidence that the child died, but there`s a lot of evidence mounting that she may still be alive."

www.cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1308/27/ng.01.html

The link you gave goes to, erm, Nancy Grace...

Did I miss something?

[Mr Moderator]

And here we have the same claim in the Daily Telegraph.

"A source close to the McCanns' solicitors said the smell on Mrs McCann could be explained by being in contact with corpses while working as a GP."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1563381/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-look-to-US-sniffer-dog-case.html


It has been claimed that the original story came from the Portuguese daily, Correio da Manha.  There are other claims in the British Press that the comments originated with Kate McCann's mother when confronted with the news of the dog alerts to Kate's clothing and cuddle cat.  The latter being explained since the toy made occasional visits to the GP's place of employment.

What is known for sure is that neither Gerry or Kate McCann were asked to explain the dog alerts to clothing at the arguido interviews. The clothes were returned to them the following day.

[jassi]

Picking up on Ferryman's post concerning Gerry's arguido interview:


-- Regarding the cadaver odour in the car that was rented at the end of May, (xx)-DA-27, he says he cannot explain more than what he already has.
--- Regarding the presence of human blood in the boot of the same vehicle, he says that he has not explanation for this fact.
-- When confronted with the fact that Madeleine's DNA was collected from behind the sofa and in the boot of the vehicle and analyzed by a British laboratory, situations also described before, he says that he cannot explain.

It is clearly either total incompetence on the part of the PJ interrogating him in understanding the results, or bluff. Or perhaps both.

Were either Kate or Gerry actually shown the forensic reports?

Would it be usual practice to do so?
In a similar situation would British police disclose written forensic  reports?

[icabodcrane]

Anyone who begins an article with a quote from the National Enquirer to try and lend their ensuing article credibility really is scraping the barrel.   The paper is notorious for publishing the most scandalous, salacious and above all inaccurate stories ever written!  It's would be like quoting the Sunday Sport in order to support one's argument.  Absurd.

How about the Daily Mail then  ?

An article written by Vanessa Allen   (  a journalist always very  'supportive'  0f the McCanns  )   on July 22 2008,  is still available on line   (  if anyone cares to link to it  )

In that artice  ( entitled  'The dodgy DNA evidence that lead to the McCanns being made suspects'  ) Ms Allen states ;

"Police also failed to realise that  Mrs McCann,  who is a GP,  had come into contact with six patients who died before she went on holiday"

So the claim was made in the mainstream British press  too 

[Alfred R Jones]

Suppose it is true that Kate's mother was asked by the media to account for the cadaver alerts to her daughter's clothes.  Imagine yourself in Mrs Healy's shoes - you are aghast at this revelation and desperately seeking to account for it.  The fact that your daughter is a doctor who sometimes comes into contact with dead bodies might account for it you think, mightn't it?  You're no expert but you've been asked to comment by the world's media and it's the only thing you can think of to explain it (apart from the more sinister and unthinkable thought, which you instantly banish from your mind as quite impossible). 

Of course some people can't imagine being in Mrs Healy's shoes at such a distressing revelation.  They can only imagine a scenario in which Kate instructs her mother to tell lies on her behalf to get her off the hook.

[Alfred R Jones]

How about the Daily Mail then  ?

An article written by Vanessa Allen   (  a journalist always very  'supportive'  0f the McCanns  )   on July 22 2008,  is still available on line   (  if anyone cares to link to it  )

In that artice  ( entitled  'The dodgy DNA evidence that lead to the McCanns being made suspects'  ) Ms Allen states ;

"Police also failed to realise that  Mrs McCann,  who is a GP,  had come into contact with six patients who died before she went on holiday"

So the claim was made in the mainstream British press  too

Any reference as to who made the claim to the Daily Mail?

[Mr Gray]

The distance from the patio of 5a to the tapas restaurant is 50 metres and not 300 feet.

it also says the mccanns have won the libel case

[Mr Moderator]

it also says the mccanns have won the libel case

No, what it states is this...

WALKER: And the lead detective in the case, the Portuguese detective was bounced off the case after about five months, God knows why, but he then went on to write a book saying that the McCanns were killers, and he made a half a million dollars from that book.

 GRACE: I hope he was sued. Was he?

 WALKER: Yes, he was.

 GRACE: Was it successful?

 WALKER: Yes.


It was successful to the extent that Amaral has had most of his income frozen for some time pending the libel courts decision and any appeals or counter sue cases that follow.  Walker never stated they had won the case.

[Mr Gray]

How about the Daily Mail then  ?

An article written by Vanessa Allen   (  a journalist always very  'supportive'  0f the McCanns  )   on July 22 2008,  is still available on line   (  if anyone cares to link to it  )

In that artice  ( entitled  'The dodgy DNA evidence that lead to the McCanns being made suspects'  ) Ms Allen states ;

"Police also failed to realise that  Mrs McCann,  who is a GP,  had come into contact with six patients who died before she went on holiday"

So the claim was made in the mainstream British press  too

probably not true but it doesn't really matter...mccanns not suspects so everything else..unless new evidence...is grasping at straws, and there seems to be a lot of that going on

[Alfred R Jones]

No, what it states is this...

WALKER: And the lead detective in the case, the Portuguese detective was bounced off the case after about five months, God knows why, but he then went on to write a book saying that the McCanns were killers, and he made a half a million dollars from that book.

 GRACE: I hope he was sued. Was he?

 WALKER: Yes, he was.

 GRACE: Was it successful?

 WALKER: Yes.


It was successful to the extent that Amaral has had most of his income frozen for some time pending the libel courts decision and any appeals or counter sue cases that follow.  Walker never stated they had won the case.

Walker states that Amaral was successfully sued.  No "ifs" or "buts".

[sadie]

The distance from the patio of 5a to the tapas restaurant is 50 metres and not 300 feet.

Exactly, Mr Moderator.   The reporter couldn't even get the distance right.

Thank God for Google Earth and the actual measure of a little over 50 metres instead of various false distances of up to 250 metres [IIRC.]



So many of the Mccann sceptics would not have been beating them up at every opportunity had they realised just how close they were.   



Just who spread this disinformation, this propaganda, in the first place?

[Mr Moderator]

The claim that the dog alerted to Kate's trousers and to cuddle cat were work related are in all probability genuine and were most likely made for all the right reasons. What is not known however is whether the comments were 'picked before they were shovelled'?  Did Kate discuss it with her parents after having been infirmed if the dig reactions?  Somehow I don't think this will ever be answered. 

[peter claridge]

Gerry McCanns' arguido interview:

During this interview several films of a forensic nature showing sniffer dogs were shown where their signalling can be seen regarding indication of cadaver odour and traces of blood also human, and only of a human nature, as well as the comments made by the expert in charge of the procedure.
-- After viewing the films and after the signalling of cadaver odour in their room next to the wardrobe and behind the sofa against the window in the living room, he says that he has no comments, neither has he any explanation for this fact.
--- Also, the dog that detects human blood signalled human blood behind the sofa mentioned above, he says that he cannot explain this fact.
-- Regarding the cadaver odour in the car that was rented at the end of May, (xx)-DA-27, he says he cannot explain more than what he already has.
--- Regarding the presence of human blood in the boot of the same vehicle, he says that he has not explanation for this fact.
-- When confronted with the fact that Madeleine's DNA was collected from behind the sofa and in the boot of the vehicle and analyzed by a British laboratory, situations also described before, he says that he cannot explain.

You missed out this part
The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

[ferryman]

You missed out this part
The defence lawyer said that he wishes the arguido to be asked again if Madeleine bled. To which he said it was common for Madeleine to have nosebleeds. He says that he doesn’t know if in fact his daughter bled while on holiday in Portugal, because he does not want to be influenced by the news in the Press, regarding the detection of human blood in the apartment where his daughter disappeared.

Kids commonly have nosebleeds.

And?

[peter claridge]

Kids commonly have nosebleeds.

And?

Go on, have a stab at it yourself you know you want to.