No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?

[Alfred R Jones]

So you are suggesting a conspiracy?

How do you work that out from my question which was directed at you asking the same thing?

[Alfred R Jones]

Not at all - a conspiracy is a deliberate act between conspirators, not a gentle massaging of details amongst friends

"A gentle massaging of details" basically means if I understand you correctly jointly agreeing to tell lies to the police in the hopes that your friends don't get charged with covering up their daughter's death.  That equates to a conspiracy.

[pathfinder73]

Smithman needed a good alibi before moving the child in case he was seen. Can't be in two places at once deception. That's the reason he was spotted at that time. Smithman wouldn't want anyone to know about it. That's a secret you take to your grave not confide to your family and friends.

[Alfred R Jones]

Smithman needed a good alibi before moving the child in case he was seen. Can't be in two places at once deception. That's the reason he was spotted at that time. Smithman wouldn't want anyone to know about it. That's a secret you take to your grave not confide to your family and friends.

Not quite sure what you're saying but this doesn't sound very simple to me.  It sounds complex, convoluted, conspiratorial.

[slartibartfast]

How do you work that out from my question which was directed at you asking the same thing?

You are the one talking about conspiracies?  8-)(--)

[John]

I disagree.

The police are quite capable of being vague when someone may still be a suspect: e…g, "All possibilities are still under investigation...".

In the Jo Yeates case, the police stated that the boyfriend was not a suspect - they had somehow eliminated him.

Weren't Essex Police quite happy to reveal that Jeremy Bamber wasn't a suspect early on too choosing to believe it was four murders and a suicide? 

Had it not been for DS Stan Jones and his policeman instincts he would have got away with it.

[Alfred R Jones]

So you believe the McCanns' friends told truthful accounts of the events as they remember them then?

[Alfred R Jones]

You are the one talking about conspiracies?  8-)(--)

I'm asking you if you think there was a conspiracy, why are you asking me if I think there was one?  I can give a simple, straight forward answer without using goading and insulting smileys.  Can you?  My answer is 'no' by the way.

[icabodcrane]

So you believe the McCanns' friends told truthful accounts of the events as they remember them then?

Why this insistance on the tapas group being some kind of single entity  ...  where they are  ALL  involved  ...  or they are  ALL  innocent of involvement  ?

Isn't it possible that some were, and remain entirely uninvolved  ... some who became aware later that they had been unwittingly involved in a cover-up of some sort ...  and some who were directly involved in a cover up of some sort from the start   ?

That's possible isn't it  ?   

[Alfred R Jones]

Why this insistance on the tapas group being some kind of single entity  ...  where they are  ALL  involved  ...  or they are  ALL  innocent of involvement  ?

Isn't it possible that some were, and remain entirely uninvolved  ... some who became aware later that they had been unwittingly involved in a cover-up of some sort ...  and some who were directly involved in a cover up of some sort from the start   ?

That's possible isn't it  ?

As I've said before anything is possible, but looking at the known facts is it likely?  I  would say not.  To have all 7 friends broadly singing from the same hymn sheet right from the start either indicates they are all telling the truth or that they are all lying. In my opinion, of course.

[slartibartfast]

I'm asking you if you think there was a conspiracy, why are you asking me if I think there was one?  I can give a simple, straight forward answer without using goading and insulting smileys.  Can you?  My answer is 'no' by the way.

Stop trying to put dangerous words into people's mouths then.

[Albertini]

of course its an opinion...thats what I said..remember...it certainly isn't fact

No, you said I was stating an opinion as fact. I did not do that.

Once again though out of two longish posts you do not respond, rebutt or counter any of the reasoning and points contained within them.

[Albertini]

I disagree.

The police are quite capable of being vague when someone may still be a suspect: e…g, "All possibilities are still under investigation...".

In the Jo Yeates case, the police stated that the boyfriend was not a suspect - they had somehow eliminated him.

I disagree in this case. To be vague would further fuel media speculation that they were still suspects. To be vague would be taken as guilty.

If charges are ever brought against them the Yard can say well they weren't suspects at the time but subsequent evidence has put them in the frame.

[Benice]

I disagree in this case. To be vague would further fuel media speculation that they were still suspects. To be vague would be taken as guilty.

If charges are ever brought against them the Yard can say well they weren't suspects at the time but subsequent evidence has put them in the frame.

If the McCanns are still suspects - would SY be keeping them up to date with proceedings and would they have been introduced to the Oporto team?   Not a chance IMO.

[stephen25000]

If the McCanns are still suspects - would SY be keeping them up to date with proceedings and would they have been introduced to the Oporto team?   Not a chance IMO.

Then there is nothing to worry about or post that on here, is there.