Author Topic: No evidence of any crime by the parents and no evidence of an abduction?  (Read 56453 times)

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Offline jassi

That's abduction out of the window too then.

There's one school of thought that says that abduction never was out of the window, in that exit was via the door.

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

A school for thought. LOL

Shame that school did not have on its curriculum the subject of Logic.

Then they might have taught the need for evidence.

No matter how you dress up the guesses as "schools for thought", theses, scenarios, theories etc. the fact remains that they are utterly worthless without evidence.

And no matter how many scenarios you post or praise here the fact remains that neither you nor any other poster is offering any evidence whatsoever to back up those guesses.

That is the point of the thread and you are making it perfectly for me. Thank you.

My pleasure.  I think all are agreeing with you that there is no evidence of anything to implicate anyone.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

The point is there is no evidence of anything isn't it ? (other than the cavity beneath the Murat driveway).
Thread seems like a total waste of internet space...



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Offline sadie

I judge SY by their lack of results.

i.e. they have found nothing.

The mccanns, no proof they have told the truth, and that's a fact as well.

They  claimed they exhibited responsible parenting. NO THEY DIDN'T.

THEY and only they are responsible for Madeleine's predicament.

Surely you must agree on that ?
How do you know that they found nothing.

I think they are[playing a very cany game.

You may be surprised.

Offline gilet

The point is there is no evidence of anything isn't it ? (other than the cavity beneath the Murat driveway).
Thread seems like a total waste of internet space...

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Is there any real evidence of such a cavity? Do you believe a crazed South African fantasist, self-confessed law breaker so much?

And yet you have no faith in SY officers?

Bias or what?

And just because you don't like a thread which proves that nobody can offer any more evidence about the involvement of the parents of Madeleine than they can about abduction does not mean it is a waste of internet space.

Perhaps all those out there on the internet whose lives seem to centre around abusing the McCanns for perceived crimes would do well to realise that when push comes to shove those claiming that the parents of Madeleine were involved CANNOT PROVIDE ANY REAL EVIDENCE OF THOSE CLAIMS. It is good that the admin of this forum are willing to allow the thread and give people the opportunity to try to offer such evidence. It is a shame that none of the posters so far can do so. Indeed most admit openly there is no evidence.

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Offline gilet

What debate?

Which beliefs?

Clearly you are not aware that the threads on this forum are a kind of debate where posters "debate the issues". I am not entirely surprised about that as the bulk of your posts are merely mocking.

And how easily you forget that you posted the scenario as your belief as to what might have happened. Luckily we don't all have such short attention spans.

Offline gilet

How do you know that they found nothing.

I think they are[playing a very cany game.

You may be surprised.

Stephen doesn't know what SY have found. He is not judging them. He is, as I pointed out, prejudging them.

And even when they do state what they have found such as that the McCanns are not suspects. He chooses not to believe them anyway and demands evidence.

A shame that in the past he has not demanded evidence of all those who suggest that the McCanns have committed some kind of crime. Such bias is unbecoming in one who claims to be a truth seeker but hardly surprising in a person whose only role is to trot out a mantra.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Clearly you are not aware that the threads on this forum are a kind of debate where posters "debate the issues". I am not entirely surprised about that as the bulk of your posts are merely mocking.

And how easily you forget that you posted the scenario as your belief as to what might have happened. Luckily we don't all have such short attention spans.

I believe many different things could have happened, but only one of them really did.
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Offline gilet

I believe many different things could have happened, but only one of them really did.

Of course a number of things could have happened but only one thing did happen.

But nobody knows which thing that was, do they? Those who claim they do are simply guessing based on unreliable data. Or do you have evidence to show otherwise?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Of course a number of things could have happened but only one thing did happen.

But nobody knows which thing that was, do they? Those who claim they do are simply guessing based on unreliable data. Or do you have evidence to show otherwise?

Kate & Gerry do.

And no, none of us here have any evidence, with the exception of sadie.
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Offline pathfinder73

Smithman is the key. If they identify him they can prove the nonsense of the impossible moving door and why those finger prints were found on the window.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline gilet

Smithman is the key. If they identify him they can prove the nonsense of the impossible moving door and why those finger prints were found on the window.

How will identifying a man carrying a child a quarter of a mile away relate specifically to the evidence given by Kate about a moving door within the apartment?

How will identifying a man carrying a child a quarter of a mile away relate specifically to the fingerprints found on the window? We know they were not the fingerprints of a man.

What evidence do you have for making that general claim in the above post?


Offline pathfinder73

How will identifying a man carrying a child a quarter of a mile away relate specifically to the evidence given by Kate about a moving door within the apartment?

How will identifying a man carrying a child a quarter of a mile away relate specifically to the fingerprints found on the window? We know they were not the fingerprints of a man.

What evidence do you have for making that general claim in the above post?



Everything connects when he's identified. How Why When etc. His efits were done in 2008 and suppressed.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline gilet

Ok back on topic.

Is there any evidence?

No there aint.

Right that's that dealt with, now let's get on with our lives.

Thank you for admitting that at last.

There is no evidence for the McCanns having committed any crime at all. And there is no evidence for abduction.

That is the point I have been making and finally you have managed to see the truth of the matter.

It is a shame that so many people still persist in their spurious definitive allegations about the McCanns when there is no evidence of any crime by them.

And it is a shame that some people persist in claiming that Madeleine was definitely abducted when there is no evidence for that either.

The fact is that anyone claiming to know what happened is simply guessing.
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Offline gilet

Everything connects when he's identified. How Why When etc. His efits were done in 2008 and suppressed.

I asked you to explain how you believe the identification of this man a quarter of a mile away specifically "connects" with the door closing in the apartment and with the female fingerprints.

Can you do that with some kind of logic or evidence or are you just guessing?