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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2014, 10:36:58 AM »

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Location: Wardrobe Shelf
Status: Deceased

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline John

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2014, 02:31:46 PM »
In the absence of any other detailed non-abduction theory about what happened to Madeleine McCann I thought it might be worth re-visiting Amaral's thesis.  With all that we now know about the case, is his thesis at all credible?  Does it hang together coherently as a plausible account of events?  Is there any evidence that those currently investigating the case are using his thesis as a basis for their investigations?

For Gonçalo Amaral's thesis to work he would have needed to have gathered substantial evidence and that is where it falls down.  The accidental death, the removal of the body at such short notice, the refrigeration and subsequent disposal, all conducted under the noses of the worlds Press and media.

Certainly there are inconsistencies in versions of events and other little indicators which Amaral points to as being part of some great conspiracy but without hard evidence none of it can ever amount to anything more than a theory, his theory.

« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 02:36:41 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2014, 04:28:21 PM »
For Gonçalo Amaral's thesis to work he would have needed to have gathered substantial evidence and that is where it falls down.  The accidental death, the removal of the body at such short notice, the refrigeration and subsequent disposal, all conducted under the noses of the worlds Press and media.

Certainly there are inconsistencies in versions of events and other little indicators which Amaral points to as being part of some great conspiracy but without hard evidence none of it can ever amount to anything more than a theory, his theory.

A shoehorning approach to police investigations, seemingly. It's only 40 years since Portugal officially became a democracy...Hopefully, more modern policing is slowly being implemented.

Offline jassi

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2014, 04:49:23 PM »
A shoehorning approach to police investigations, seemingly. It's only 40 years since Portugal officially became a democracy...Hopefully, more modern policing is slowly being implemented.

The Metropolitan Police has been in existence since 1829 and still seems to have major problems, so 40 years would seem nothing by comparison.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Cornelius

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2014, 04:51:49 PM »
A shoehorning approach to police investigations, seemingly. It's only 40 years since Portugal officially became a democracy...Hopefully, more modern policing is slowly being implemented.
Dictatorship does not equal backward as you seem to suggest.
Whilst one would not wish to have lived under it Stalin took Russia from a nation of peasants to putting the first man in space in less than 40 years.
In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
Graham Greene The Third Man.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2014, 05:13:33 PM »
Dictatorship does not equal backward as you seem to suggest.
Whilst one would not wish to have lived under it Stalin took Russia from a nation of peasants to putting the first man in space in less than 40 years.
In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
Graham Greene The Third Man.

And where would you rather live...Russia or Switzerland

Offline Lace

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2014, 01:52:50 PM »
Location: Wardrobe Shelf
Status: Deceased

Why would the McCann's put the body of Madeleine in the wardrobe?

If what Amaral says happened,   then Madeleine would have been found behind the sofa,   so why would someone take her from there and put her in then wardrobe?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2014, 03:45:53 PM »
Why would the McCann's put the body of Madeleine in the wardrobe?

If what Amaral says happened,   then Madeleine would have been found behind the sofa,   so why would someone take her from there and put her in then wardrobe?

Because the sofa was found pushed up against the wall.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2014, 04:03:01 PM »
Because the sofa was found pushed up against the wall.

In the photos taken by the PJ after everyone (including the GNR) had checked for everywhere in the apartment...

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2014, 04:21:13 PM »
Dictatorship does not equal backward as you seem to suggest.
Whilst one would not wish to have lived under it Stalin took Russia from a nation of peasants to putting the first man in space in less than 40 years.
In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
Graham Greene The Third Man.

I don't see the connection between that and more modern policing methods...

Offline Lace

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2014, 04:40:15 PM »
Because the sofa was found pushed up against the wall.

So what you are saying is,   the McCann's found Madeleine behind the sofa,  took Madeleine hid her in the wardrobe and pushed the sofa against the wall.

The wardrobe was searched though wasn't it?    so what was the point of doing that?

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2014, 05:00:34 PM »
So what you are saying is,   the McCann's found Madeleine behind the sofa,  took Madeleine hid her in the wardrobe and pushed the sofa against the wall.

The wardrobe was searched though wasn't it?    so what was the point of doing that?

If the GNR hadn't double-checked behind the sofa for a potentially non-missing child before calling in the PJ, they'd be pretty stupid, wouldn't they? These were photos taken late at night, presumably after McCanns and others had left as there's no trace of them in any of the photos.

So who, logically, was the last to move the sofa prior to those photos being taken?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2014, 05:14:19 PM »
So what you are saying is,   the McCann's found Madeleine behind the sofa,  took Madeleine hid her in the wardrobe and pushed the sofa against the wall.

The wardrobe was searched though wasn't it?    so what was the point of doing that?

In case one of their friends came round. Eddie was sniffing outside the parents bedroom not the patio lounge entrance. Exit possibility: wardrobe - bedroom door - balcony. Somebody coming. Hide in flower bed. After they've gone. Moved from flower bed.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Teecah

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2014, 05:30:55 PM »
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Then, while his colleague remained in the hall, and the others were in the living room, the witness went through the entire apartment. He opened all the cupboards in the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and checked under the beds and inside the washing machine. He did not see the fridge.

The colleague:

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Then, with his colleague, he searched the apartment. He opened all the cupboards of the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and he checked under the beds and in the fridge. He did not see the washing machine.

Strange innit?

Cornelius

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2014, 05:58:03 PM »
I don't see the connection between that and more modern policing methods...
Your suggestion was that now they were a democracy it might lead to more modern policing techniques. The implication being they were behind the times.