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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #300 on: June 17, 2014, 10:50:33 PM »
Lest we forget.

From the Guardian ( Alfred's source of choice ).

British police helped to "develop evidence" against Madeleine McCann's parents as they were investigated by Portuguese police as formal suspects in the disappearance of their daughter, the US ambassador to Portugal was told by his British counterpart in September 2007.

The meeting between US ambassador Al Hoffman and the British ambassador, Alexander Wykeham Ellis, took place a fortnight after Kate and Gerry McCann were formally declared arguidos, or suspects, by Portuguese police. The McCanns have said that there was "absolutely no evidence to implicate them in Madeleine's disappearance whatsoever."

In a diplomatic cable marked confidential, the US ambassador reported: "Without delving into the details of the case, Ellis admitted that the British police had developed the current evidence against the McCann parents, and he stressed that authorities from both countries were working co-operatively."

The comments attributed to the ambassador appear to contradict the widespread perception at the time that Portuguese investigators were the driving force behind the treatment of the McCanns as suspects in the case.

The disclosure comes as WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange returns to court in an attempt to secure bail following his arrest last week at the request of Swedish authorities who want to interview him over allegations of sexual assault. A number of other cables released by the whistleblowers' website shed new light on aspects of the financial crisis. Revelations include:
Did you post this just to have a dig at me or is there some relevance to the preceding discussion which I have missed?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #301 on: June 17, 2014, 10:57:36 PM »
Did you post this just to have a dig at me or is there some relevance to the preceding discussion which I have missed?

My goodness I didn't have you down for the paranoid sort Alfred.

I posted the article to remind readers that Amaral wasn't the only policeman involved in constructing the theory that Madeleine died in 5a and her parents concealed her body.

A timely reminder  I'm sure you'll agree.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #302 on: June 17, 2014, 11:05:43 PM »
My goodness I didn't have you down for the paranoid sort Alfred.

I posted the article to remind readers that Amaral wasn't the only policeman involved in constructing the theory that Madeleine died in 5a and her parents concealed her body.

A timely reminder  I'm sure you'll agree.
He WAS the only police office who made a fortune out of selling his theory though, if I recall correctly.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #303 on: June 17, 2014, 11:09:46 PM »
He WAS the only police office who made a fortune out of selling his theory though, if I recall correctly.

This thread is about Amaral's thesis and whether it is credible or not, not whether he made money from his book. Please stay on topic Alfred.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #304 on: June 17, 2014, 11:29:43 PM »
The funeral addition theory is ridiculous.
Funeral companies  do not use the church as storage.

When my wife and I were having our wedding rehearsal, there was a coffin at the alter waiting for a funeral the next day, in my work, we often take a coffin into church the previous day, especially Catholic Churches.

P.S. The lids are held down with 4 screws.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline carlymichelle

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #305 on: June 17, 2014, 11:31:03 PM »
When my wife and I were having our wedding rehearsal, there was a coffin at the alter waiting for a funeral the next day, in my work, we often take a coffin into church the previous day, especially Catholic Churches.

P.S. The lids are held down with 4 screws.


are the screws  easy to lunlock??

Offline Cudge

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #306 on: June 17, 2014, 11:33:07 PM »
When my wife and I were having our wedding rehearsal, there was a coffin at the alter waiting for a funeral the next day, in my work, we often take a coffin into church the previous day, especially Catholic Churches.

P.S. The lids are held down with 4 screws.

What about at open casket funerals ?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #307 on: June 18, 2014, 12:01:47 AM »
are the screws  easy to lunlock??

They are only ordinary screws , usually with plastic decoration.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #308 on: June 18, 2014, 12:02:29 AM »
What about at open casket funerals ?

Never seen one personally.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #309 on: June 18, 2014, 02:16:49 AM »
In his film, interpretation of sofa and bedroom signals is skilled but interpretation of clothing signals is wrong JIMO. 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #310 on: June 18, 2014, 08:39:04 AM »
Just to be clear, what evidence did UK police help provide that Madeleine was dead and her parents involved?
« Last Edit: June 18, 2014, 11:41:03 AM by John »

Offline Eleanor

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #311 on: June 18, 2014, 08:49:39 AM »
Just to be clear, what evidence did UK police help provide that Madeleine was dead and her parents involved?

They didn't.  It wasn't their place to do so.  But I believe that they put forward suggestions in line with how the investigation would have been conducted in Britain.  Which is what Scotland Yard are doing now.  Scotland Yard have also said that they do not believe that The McCanns were involved.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #312 on: June 18, 2014, 11:36:48 AM »
In which case your only conclusion in answering this thread must be "no, Amaral's thesis is not credible" - you could go so far as to say it's downright INcredible.  As for your second statement I believe that's more libel on your part and will have to be reported.

Parts of Amaral's thesis, I believe, are not credible.

As to libel, didn't Martin Smith and his wife say that the man they saw was more than likely ( 60-80% ) Gerry ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #313 on: June 18, 2014, 11:39:09 AM »
Parts of Amaral's thesis, I believe, are not credible.

As to libel, didn't Martin Smith and his wife say that the man they saw was more than likely ( 60-80% ) Gerry ?
He was giving evidence to the police, which is exempt from accusations of libel - you on the other hand are just passing time on the internet, making libellous comments like that one, and so are not exempt from the laws of libel of this country.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #314 on: June 18, 2014, 11:41:03 AM »
Just to be clear, what evidence did UK police help provide that Madeleine was dead and her parents involved?

The US ambassador didn't go into detail so I'm afraid we don't know.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?