Author Topic: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?  (Read 126521 times)

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Martina

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #360 on: June 20, 2014, 03:54:16 PM »
The police should always be suspicious and investigate parents. They should rule out or charge as soon as possible. The PJ failed to do this. SY will have done things properly

If the McCanns are innocent why Kate refused to answer these questions? She would help the PJ to rule her out doing that!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #361 on: June 20, 2014, 03:56:10 PM »
If the McCanns are innocent why Kate refused to answer these questions? She would help the PJ to rule her out doing that!

The same reason as many innocent people refuse to answer police questions...particularly bungling inept police...

or are you suggesting that failure to answer is proof of guilt..of course it isnt

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #362 on: June 20, 2014, 03:58:11 PM »
If the McCanns are innocent why Kate refused to answer these questions? She would help the PJ to rule her out doing that!

Just to add this has been discussed ad nauseam...kate was absolutely right not to answer the stupid questions she was asked ...considering she had already answered questions for many hours

Offline Montclair

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #363 on: June 20, 2014, 05:44:49 PM »
The cipriano case is a similar case involving amaral where he managed to get a conviction with basically no evidence. perhaps he thought he could do the same here and is therefore highly relevant

So, Gonçalo Amaral managed to convict Leonor and João Cipriano all by himself, with no Ministério Público, no prosecutors, no judges, no jury, no investigation, no forensics involved? Don't be ridiculous!  An appeal from João Cipriano for parole was just recently rejected by the courts because, according to the judges, he showed no remorse or empathy for the victim. Are you going to blame GA for this too?
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Martina

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #364 on: June 20, 2014, 05:50:23 PM »
Not according to the non existent forensics.

If the forensics are non existent how the Supreme Court decided it is a proven fact?

Offline Montclair

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #365 on: June 20, 2014, 06:06:10 PM »
no we blame amaral in his complicity in the torture that supplied the only piece of evidence..the confession

This sentence is the proof of how thickheaded and prejudiced you are because you have been told innumerous times that only confessions made in a court of law in front of a judge can be considered evidence. The fact that you can defend those two people shows that you have no idea how Portuguese justice works. If there had been any flaw in the trial, it would have been brought up in the appeal courts and this did not happen. It is evident that you have only become involved in that case because of your need to defend your lovely couple.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #366 on: June 20, 2014, 06:08:34 PM »
I must be having a piggin' dim day today.
Please will some wise person explain where Cipriano fits into Dr Amaral's thesis about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Just a few observations. 

The area of the Algarve where Joana and Madeleine disappeared is a very under-populated area.  The girls, both under 10, went missing within a short timeframe  and within a small area.  Neither of their bodies has yet been found.  This is either a startling and unfortunate coincidence or perhaps their disappearances are connected.  I struggle to think of any other disappearances of children from such a small area and within such a short timeframe anywhere else in the world that were unconnected but may be there are some examples I'm unaware of.   

The man in charge of both investigations decided  that in both cases the parents dunnit.  In both cases fridges or freezers featured prominently in his theories, as did macabre and unproven scenarios such as "fed to the pigs" & cremated in old woman's coffin." There was no forensic evidence to prove either child died in the way that he claimed they did, or was disposed of in the way that he claimed. 

These are a few of the reasons why the Cipriano case is of interest to those who believe Madeleine was most likely abducted.  Some of us wonder if the two cases are connected somehow, despite the fact that the Ciprianos confessed - maybe there is an element of their daughter's disappearance that wasn't fully revealed at the time, or maybe they (being simple folk) they confessed to something they didn't actually do - it wouldn't be the first time, now would it?


Offline Benice

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #367 on: June 21, 2014, 12:58:28 AM »
Well for those who haven't got an ounce of common sense....

However, in the real world, NO.

The only person nearly stitched up was Murat.

Then we know of course who pointed the finger in his direction, don't we ? 8**8:/:

Yes - it was British journalists.   I thought everyone knew that.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Eleanor

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #368 on: June 21, 2014, 03:48:57 AM »

In Portugal this is a distinct possibility.  The Ciprianos weren't the first.  And then they tried it on with the wrong people.

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #369 on: June 21, 2014, 08:39:53 AM »
Yes - it was British journalists.   I thought everyone knew that.

Who are you trying to kid ?

Who else benice ?

What did kate mccann want to happen to Murat ?

and who does Murat STRONGLY RESEMBLE ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #370 on: June 21, 2014, 08:43:10 AM »
Who are you trying to kid ?

Who else benice ?

What did kate mccann want to happen to Murat ?

and who does Murat STRONGLY RESEMBLE ?

it was a british journalist...another fact in the case you seem unaware of

Offline Eleanor

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #371 on: June 21, 2014, 08:43:23 AM »
Who are you trying to kid ?

Who else benice ?

What did kate mccann want to happen to Murat ?

and who does Murat STRONGLY RESEMBLE ?

His cousin.  One of the people who owns The Ocean Club.  Symington, was it?

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #372 on: June 21, 2014, 08:44:19 AM »
His cousin.  One of the people who owns The Ocean Club.  Symington, was it?

Nil points on that one.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #373 on: June 21, 2014, 08:49:49 AM »
Nil points on that one.

I can't imagine why.  Family resemblance, wasn't it.

stephen25000

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #374 on: June 21, 2014, 08:51:20 AM »
I can't imagine w.
hy.  Family resemblance, wasn't it.

Try some CLOSER to the mccann party. 8((()*/