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Offline jassi

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2014, 04:30:51 PM »
We are told it is a very fluid investigation, which would  imply that changes are occurring all the time.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2014, 04:34:03 PM »
We are told it is a very fluid investigation, which would  imply that changes are occurring all the time.

I am very confident that a police force as professional as SY will have looked first at the parents and they have been ruled out...you can throw mud and some will stick on the forums but that is all you are doing...throwing mud

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2014, 04:57:14 PM »
I am very confident that a police force as professional as SY will have looked first at the parents and they have been ruled out...you can throw mud and some will stick on the forums but that is all you are doing...throwing mud

I think the opposite might be true here like in Channel 4 Dispatches Searching for Madeleine.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id460.html

McCanns evidence 'doesn't add up' Daily Mirror

EXCLUSIVE THE HUNT FOR MADELEINE Brit team questions Kate's reaction

Stewart Maclean In Praia Da Luz

18/10/2007

A team of British crime specialists who have scrutinised the Madeleine McCann case claim there are inconsistencies in her parents' version of events.

The retired experts believe there is a question mark over Kate's response when she discovered the four-year-old was missing.

Forensic scientist Professor David Barclay, part of the four-man team who reviewed the case for Channel Four's Dispatches show, said: "We examined all of the available evidence and the conclusion we came to was that there appeared to be some significant inconsistencies.

"One thing we looked for was any sign of 'staging', the term we use for the actions of someone who has committed a crime and wants to 'stage it' to appear someone else has done it.

"The first words apparently spoken by Kate McCann when she discovered Madeleine had vanished were significant. She is supposed to have said 'They've taken her, they've taken her' - which seems a strange choice of phrase.

"I don't think that would have been my first reaction if my child had gone missing."

Prof Barclay also questioned the McCanns' claims that an abductor got into their Praia da Luz holiday flat through the back shutters.

He said: "We checked the scene of the crime and it struck us immediately how unlikely it would be for anyone to try and access the apartment through the back windows. The shutters there were firmly shut and couldn't be opened and the car park behind the flat was overlooked.

"We're not saying it was impossible to have gained entry that way, but with all of our collected years of experience to us it seemed highly unlikely and a very implausible scenario.

"It could be that claim is consistent with staging, but without full knowledge of all of the facts in the case it would be impossible to say for sure."

Prof Barclay visited the crime scene along with ex-Detective Chief Superintendent Chris Stevenson, the man who caught Soham killer Ian Huntley and psychological profiler David Canter.

The will seen on tonight's show visiting key sites and seeing footage of the police in action.

Prof Barclay, 62, added: "There has been a tendency to criticise the Portuguese police but on the whole they did a pretty good job.

"However, they made two big mistakes. Firstly, they did not seal off the crime scene anywhere nearly quick enough. Secondly, in my opinion they were not aggressive enough with the McCanns in the first stage of the investigation.

"It is actually for the parents' benefit in cases like this that the police tackle them robustly and demand a comprehensive account of their movements during the relevant timeframe."
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2014, 05:10:18 PM »
I have omitted all except the only relevant part of your post -- the date the article you link to was written ...

I think the opposite might be true here like in Channel 4 Dispatches Searching for Madeleine.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id460.html



18/10/2007



Offline pathfinder73

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2014, 05:13:57 PM »
I have omitted all except the only relevant part of your post -- the date the article you link to was written ...


 8-)(--) The parents and their friends will be investigated otherwise SY haven't done their job properly. They will be left to the end once all other possibilities are investigated and it can be solved.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2014, 05:25:30 PM »
8-)(--) The parents and their friends will be investigated otherwise SY haven't done their job properly. They will be left to the end once all other possibilities are investigated and it can be solved.

The parents were investigated by the PJ back in 2007-8 and cleared.

Are you accusing the PJ of not doing their job properly?

Offline Benice

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2014, 05:34:55 PM »
In line with normal police procedure SY's first task would have been to investigate the McCanns and their friends IMO, in order to rule them in or out.
 
As a result of the findings of those investigations they have been ruled out as suspects or even persons of interest.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: intresting ex met detective thinks case will not be solved
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2014, 05:41:15 PM »
In line with normal police procedure SY's first task would have been to investigate the McCanns and their friends IMO, in order to rule them in or out.
As a result of the findings of those investigations they have been ruled out as suspects or even persons of interest.

“We were told that the UK would not accept any investigation of the McCanns – there was a lack of cooperation,”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6974917/Madeleine-McCanns-death-covered-up-by-parents-who-faked-kidnap-court-hears.html
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: intresting ex met detective thinks case will not be solved
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2014, 05:55:38 PM »
“We were told that the UK would not accept any investigation of the McCanns – there was a lack of cooperation,”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6974917/Madeleine-McCanns-death-covered-up-by-parents-who-faked-kidnap-court-hears.html

A load of lies by amaral and his gang of thugs...containing the line....

Giving evidence, Mr de Almeida said that the dogs had identified blood and the scent of a human corpse inside the childrens’ bedroom and the dining room of the McCanns’ holiday flat.

This is why maddie deserves a proper investigation by a proper police force

Offline Benice

Re: intresting ex met detective thinks case will not be solved
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2014, 06:00:49 PM »
“We were told that the UK would not accept any investigation of the McCanns – there was a lack of cooperation,”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/6974917/Madeleine-McCanns-death-covered-up-by-parents-who-faked-kidnap-court-hears.html

Not according to Amaral - who wrote in his book.................
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It is important to stress that the professionalism of the English police is not in question; actually a bonus for the investigation, their intervention on the ground did not conflict in any way with Portuguese national sovereignty. On the contrary, it lies within the framework of international cooperation between police forces
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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: intresting ex met detective thinks case will not be solved
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2014, 06:11:56 PM »
A load of lies by amaral and his gang of thugs...containing the line....

Giving evidence, Mr de Almeida said that the dogs had identified blood and the scent of a human corpse inside the childrens’ bedroom and the dining room of the McCanns’ holiday flat.

This is why maddie deserves a proper investigation by a proper police force

Indeed, find her remains and give her a proper burial imo.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2014, 06:13:17 PM »
no disrepect to little  maddie but that is british tax payers money too isnt  it?? when  some cant  afford  food     heating etc

Do you want "justice for Maddie" or not?  Justice sometimes costs a lot of money to implement. Would you rather everyone gave up after the first million was spent?   What price justice?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2014, 06:16:14 PM »
Do you want "justice for Maddie" or not?  Justice sometimes costs a lot of money to implement. Would you rather everyone gave up after the first million was spent?   What price justice?

if the investigation was pointing towards the mccanns these posters would welcome it...what makes it unpopular for some is that it is treating the mccanns as innocent

Offline sadie

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2014, 06:22:08 PM »
Do you want "justice for Maddie" or not?  Justice sometimes costs a lot of money to implement. Would you rather everyone gave up after the first million was spent?   What price justice?

Personally, Carly, I think they are looking for a lot more than just one man.

I can see a clean up rather like the clean up after Jimmy Savile, but on a larger scale.  That is if the peeps are NOT untouchables.  I fear the worst on that score.





This will bring Justice to a lot of people and hopefully bring more people/ kids back to their families.

I hope that I am right.  It is only my opinion based upon pointers I have found.

Offline Benice

Re: Interesting that ex Met detective thinks case will not be solved.
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2014, 06:31:13 PM »
Do you want "justice for Maddie" or not?  Justice sometimes costs a lot of money to implement. Would you rather everyone gave up after the first million was spent?   What price justice?

Personally - as a tax payer -  I have no problem at all with the cost of an investigation to find out what happened to a little British girl who disappeared abroad - and I would be delighted if I heard that SY were going to do the same with the Ben Needham case.

Even if the case isn't solved, a great deal of knowledge and information will have been gained by our police force which can only be an advantage when dealing with future cases of abducted children - whose chances of being found will be enhanced as a result of the experience gained in this investigation.  IMO.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal