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Offline Victoria

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #300 on: May 22, 2014, 11:16:40 AM »
The McCanns have state that the damages will go into The Fund for searching for Madeleine.  Personally, I don't care what they do with it, so long as Amaral doesn't benefit from that wretched book.  But I can't see The McCanns giving up.

I don't care what they do with it either. In fact, I hope they enjoy spending it, they deserve it. Or put it towards the twins' futures.

Offline Luz

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #301 on: May 22, 2014, 12:37:14 PM »
Sorry to disappoint some of you.

In cases of demand for a compensation it's the Court that decides the amount, not the appellants. They could be attributed from 0,10€ up to a few thousands, it depends on the assertion made by the Court of the real damages REALLY suffered.

Offline Victoria

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #302 on: May 22, 2014, 12:39:31 PM »
Sorry to disappoint some of you.

In cases of demand for a compensation it's the Court that decides the amount, not the appellants. They could be attributed from 0,10€ up to a few thousands, it depends on the assertion made by the Court of the real damages REALLY suffered.


I don't think that surprises anyone, I can't think of any jurisdiction where that wouldn't be the case.

Offline Victoria

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #303 on: May 22, 2014, 12:41:20 PM »
Of course, the fact that the court decided to freeze the shamed ex cop's assets and pension strongly suggests that the court is seriously considering a substantial award might be made in the McCanns' favour. Be nice to think that Amaral might end up paying for the twins' college fund  8@??)(

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #304 on: May 22, 2014, 12:51:17 PM »
Of course, the fact that the court decided to freeze the shamed ex cop's assets and pension strongly suggests that the court is seriously considering a substantial award might be made in the McCanns' favour. Be nice to think that Amaral might end up paying for the twins' college fund  8@??)(

That's a lot of bile against someone who was trying to get justice for Maddie?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #305 on: May 22, 2014, 01:02:26 PM »
That's a lot of bile against someone who was trying to get justice for Maddie?

Trying to make a fortune for himself, don't you mean.

Offline Carana

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #306 on: May 22, 2014, 01:13:02 PM »
Sorry to disappoint some of you.

In cases of demand for a compensation it's the Court that decides the amount, not the appellants. They could be attributed from 0,10€ up to a few thousands, it depends on the assertion made by the Court of the real damages REALLY suffered.

Yes, no disagreement on that point.

Offline Carana

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #307 on: May 22, 2014, 01:48:31 PM »
What would winning or losing the libel trial actually mean?

Some people seem to assume that if Amaral and co., win, then it would automatically mean that his hypothesis is correct.

On the other hand, it could also mean that the McCanns were unable to prove that the earth is not flat.

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #308 on: May 22, 2014, 02:26:54 PM »
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Offline jassi

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #309 on: May 22, 2014, 02:32:33 PM »
Trying to make a fortune for himself, don't you mean.

Why should that be a problem for you?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #310 on: May 22, 2014, 03:17:21 PM »
Why should that be a problem for you?

If you can't see why then I can't help you.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #311 on: May 22, 2014, 04:40:39 PM »
Sorry to disappoint some of you.

In cases of demand for a compensation it's the Court that decides the amount, not the appellants. They could be attributed from 0,10€ up to a few thousands, it depends on the assertion made by the Court of the real damages REALLY suffered.

wont amaral have very large legal costs...including the mccanns costs to pay......

Offline Carana

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #312 on: May 22, 2014, 04:51:07 PM »
I hadn't realised that was a quote.  In order to qualify for compensation one has to establish loss.  That is what the trial in Lisbon is all about.

Sorry, I should have quoted the OP.

They'll have to establish damage (as far as I understand)... but what is the grievance against?

If there are no grounds for grievance, why is there even a trial?
« Last Edit: May 22, 2014, 04:52:53 PM by Carana »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #313 on: May 22, 2014, 04:55:59 PM »
Sorry, I should have quoted the OP.

They'll have to establish damage (as far as I understand)... but what is the grievance against?

If there are no grounds for grievance, why is there even a trial?

As amaral has accused the mccanns of lying and being criminals I don't think theres much to establish

Offline Carana

Re: Luz declares the Portuguese libel trial is not a libel trial ?
« Reply #314 on: May 22, 2014, 05:38:22 PM »
As amaral has accused the mccanns of lying and being criminals I don't think theres much to establish

Hmmm. From the little that I can gather about PT law... nothing seems clear at all. And press laws date back to '99 (unless I've missed an updated version), which may or may not be a factor.

Don't forget that Murat lost his case first time around in PT. How logical does that seem?