Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.

[Silkywhiskers]

"Could a child be buried so quick?"


IF a hole was already dug, of course she could.

Amaral's thesis is that she was hidden/buried TEMPORARILY then moved by car 25 days later.

No one knows the timeline of that night, which is why the whole investigation was shut down in the first place.

Non-cooperation of those who were expected to cooperate.

Refusal to perform a reconstruction which remains the only way to definitively prove where x, y or z was, and when.

Now we know there are "8 persons of interest" which kind of wipes out 3 burglars.

The 8 people who have consistently refused to cooperate are THE TAPAS 9 MINUS DIANE WEBSTER.

[Mr Gray]

"Could a child be buried so quick?"


IF a hole was already dug, of course she could.

Amaral's thesis is that she was hidden/buried TEMPORARILY then moved by car 25 days later.

No one knows the timeline of that night, which is why the whole investigation was shut down in the first place.

Non-cooperation of those who were expected to cooperate.

Refusal to perform a reconstruction which remains the only way to definitively prove where x, y or z was, and when.

Now we know there are "8 persons of interest" which kind of wipes out 3 burglars.

The 8 people who have consistently refused to cooperate are THE TAPAS 9 MINUS DIANE WEBSTER.

these are british ...no ILOR needed...shows you are wrong again

[Silkywhiskers]

A very high proportion of stuff published in the UK press has been re-cycled from the Portuguese press.

But what about all the translation inaccuracies?

 8-)(--)

Also, since WHEN is the UK media just a translation machine for international press?

The UK media are famous for making stuff up as they go along.  They aren't bilingual either so can't read the Portugese reports, as has been pointed out ad nauseum on this forum - the Lost In Translation Excuse which features on every second thread.

[Mr Gray]

you actually highlighted the sentence and said prove it

[icabodcrane]

Prove it.

The fact that this has been spouted about the UK rags for weeks now yet NO ONE HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED kind of makes this statement ridiculous.

The sight of a military helicopter hovering over that little church,  and the earth diggers on the way make it crystal clear that  'interviewing burglars'  is not Scotland Yard's priority just now

[pegasus]

There seem to be some differences between various press reports about the exact location of the street to be potentially dug up where there had been an open roadwork trench. I found 4 possible locations

#1 is a trench which was possibly open in the public road just west of the church, this trench was for drain replacement, there was a photo in a minor local newspaper article predating May 3 but I can't find it now. 

#2 and #3 are the two open trench locations which already in the published case files are described, photographed in their filled in state, and mapped.  These are further north than the church but further south than the apartment.

#4 is an inspection hole reported in the files by a witness who saw the cover and surround off and placed at the side of the street on 3 May (and the witness's opinion seems to be that would be possible for someone to have fallen into the uncovered hole), but then the witness saw the cover and surround correctly in place the next day, location is  at a junction somewhere near the supermarket. This being probably the closest to the apartment of the four I have listed.

[pathfinder73]

I would check all around the church first #1 including building site now car park but all the road works will be checked again #2/3.

[icabodcrane]

That little church that the McCanns had private access to seems to have been the focus of the military helicopter commisioned for the task in hand
...   a military helicopter  ! 

They don't get called in on some random whim  I'm thinking

[pathfinder73]

Yes agreed getting those keys to the church fascinates me and that's why I would search there first (also Smithman was heading towards it).

[icabodcrane]

Yes getting those keys to the church fascinates me and that's why I would search there first (also Smithman was heading to it).

Was he  ? 

I didn't realise he was going in the direction of the church when the Smith family saw him 

[pegasus]

Of the approx 4 search sites named by various press reports, JIMO the only one of interest is the one closest to the place the missing person was last seen, as little as 120 metres away, it has the additional feature that at that time (contrary to an incorrect press report) IMO it was fenced, and so there is both proximity and non-visibility. The various open roadworks etc of the time obviously have to be checked and its JIMO they don't seem likely to be relevant. The beach IMO may refer really to the little west beach but I might be wrong maybe it's the far east end of the main beach (it's IMO difficult to see how they could have a reason to pick some point midway along the main beach).

[Silkywhiskers]

For all but one of  the current proposed sites I don't see how anything could have physically got there.

One site is all they're looking for.

[sadie]

Of the approx 4 search sites named by various press reports, JIMO the only one of interest is the one closest to the place the missing person was last seen, as little as 120 metres away, it has the additional feature that at that time (contrary to an incorrect press report) IMO it was fenced, and so there is both proximity and non-visibility. The various open roadworks etc of the time obviously have to be checked and its JIMO they don't seem likely to be relevant. The beach IMO may refer really to the little west beach but I might be wrong maybe it's the far east end of the main beach (it's IMO difficult to see how they could have a reason to pick some point midway along the main beach).

I agree about the big beach.  No way would Smithman or anyone dig there , with a childs sand spade especially.  The thought is ridiculous.  Also about checking the road works.

But imo thru things I have found after the immediate abduction Madeleine left PdL as a living child


Probably on a boat.

[Wonderfulspam]

I agree about the big beach.  No way would Smithman or anyone dig there , withg a childs sand spade especially.  The thought is ridiculous.  Also anout checking the road works.

But imo thru things I have found after the immediate abduction Madeleine left PdL as a living child


Probably on a boat.

Surfboard I reckon.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1764.15

[Cariad]

I agree about the big beach.  No way would Smithman or anyone dig there , withg a childs sand spade especially.  The thought is ridiculous.  Also anout checking the road works.

But imo thru things I have found after the immediate abduction Madeleine left PdL as a living child


Probably on a boat.

She may not have though Sadie. Sy may find a body and you need to prepare yourself for that.