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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2014, 10:43:44 AM »
When the tabloids report that SY are poised to make arrests in PdL, we get much scoffing and jeering in forumland.  When the tabloids report that SY are poised with mechanical diggers to dig up the resort looking for a body, disbelief is momentarily suspended and we seem to get much excitement in forumland.   Bizarre.
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Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2014, 10:51:28 AM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 10:43:44 AM
When the tabloids report that SY are poised to make arrests in PdL, we get much scoffing and jeering in forumland.  When the tabloids report that SY are poised with mechanical diggers to dig up the resort looking for a body, disbelief is momentarily suspended and we seem to get much excitement in forumland.   Bizarre.

I think most of us will believe this when we see it happen. 
The deployment of forensic scientists is, however, far less contentious than that of serving police officers in a foreign country and may provide a positive step forward.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2014, 10:56:58 AM »
Quote from: jassi on May 05, 2014, 10:51:28 AM
I think most of us will believe this when we see it happen. 
The deployment of forensic scientists is, however, far less contentious than that of serving police officers in a foreign country and may provide a positive step forward.
I agree.  I kind of hope it is true.  If the PJ did not do a thorough search of the area then it is high time one was done, even if it means everyone's worst fears that Madeleine is dead are confirmed.  The McCanns above all deserve to know what happened to their daughter and get some closure at last.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2014, 11:10:24 AM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 10:43:44 AM
When the tabloids report that SY are poised to make arrests in PdL, we get much scoffing and jeering in forumland.  When the tabloids report that SY are poised with mechanical diggers to dig up the resort looking for a body, disbelief is momentarily suspended and we seem to get much excitement in forumland.   Bizarre.

Why would anybody get excited about suspects who look nothing like the man seen carrying her towards the beach. Black men, creepy men and now fat smelly man 8-)(--)
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2014, 11:15:36 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on May 05, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Why would anybody get excited about suspects who look nothing like the man seen carrying her towards the beach. Black men, creepy men and now fat smelly man 8-)(--)

Why would anyone get excited about the prospect of mechanical diggers looking for a little girl's body?  I think you missed the point I was making in any case.
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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2014, 11:21:48 AM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 11:15:36 AM
Why would anyone get excited about the prospect of mechanical diggers looking for a little girl's body?  I think you missed the point I was making in any case.

Unfortunately the harsh reality is that she is probably dead. And they will want to find her or find clues to know if Smithman hid her towards the beach where he was last seen.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 11:25:07 AM by pathfinder73 »
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2014, 11:26:05 AM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on May 05, 2014, 11:21:48 AM
Unfortunately the harsh reality is that she is probably dead. And if so they will want to find her or find clues to know if Smithman hid her towards the beach where he was last seen.

Why has it taken 7 years to get to this point? 
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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2014, 12:55:45 PM »
From the beginning, the police have always been directed towards a live abduction.
We have been told that the investigation was reopened because of new evidence - presumably some of this new evidence points towards the concealment of Madeleine's body.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2014, 12:57:29 PM »
Quote from: jassi on May 05, 2014, 12:55:45 PM
From the beginning, the police have always been directed towards a live abduction.
We have been told that the investigation was reopened because of new evidence - presumably some of this new evidence points towards the concealment of Madeleine's body.
How does your statement "from the beginning the police have always been directed towards a live abduction" square with Amaral's own revelation in his book that he suspected right from Day 1 that the parents were involved?
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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2014, 12:58:03 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 12:53:58 PM
If the PJ conducted a proper search then why are diggers only just now (allegedly) being deployed?  Where did the PJ dig?

Doesn't really matter - where they are going to dig now is far more important.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2014, 12:59:16 PM »
Quote from: jassi on May 05, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Doesn't really matter - where they are going to dig now is far more important.
Do you think it doesn't matter that the PJ didn't conduct proper searches?  I  think it does actually.
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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2014, 01:03:38 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 12:57:29 PM
How does your statement "from the beginning the police have always been directed towards a live abduction" square with Amaral's own revelation in his book that he suspected right from Day 1 that the parents were involved?

As I understand it, Amaral was/is convinced of the involvement of the McCanns in Madeleine's disappearance, not necessarily her death.  Only later did he come to  believe that Madeleine was dead, so in the meantime, (until his removal), he was looking for a living child.
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I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2014, 01:04:43 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Do you think it doesn't matter that the PJ didn't conduct proper searches?  I  think it does actually.

You asked where did they dig, not whether they did a thorough search.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2014, 01:06:07 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on May 05, 2014, 12:59:16 PM
Do you think it doesn't matter that the PJ didn't conduct proper searches?  I  think it does actually.

I'd imagine they were far too busy dealing with all them sightings.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id27.html
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2014, 01:08:27 PM »
Quote from: jassi on May 05, 2014, 01:03:38 PM
As I understand it, Amaral was/is convinced of the involvement of the McCanns in Madeleine's disappearance, not necessarily her death.  Only later did he come to  believe that Madeleine was dead, so in the meantime, (until his removal), he was looking for a living child.

Not a very good policeman then was he? 
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