Scotland Yard about to commence digs in and around Praia da Luz.

[Mr Gray]

They did last time davel, but the forensics as we know where inconclusive.

what did they find

[jassi]

what did they find

Wasn't it traces of sea bass and pork scratchings ?

[VIXTE]

Wasn't it traces of sea bass and pork scratchings ?

It was a big nothing. Similar to a coconut shell they found on the other side.

[Mr Gray]

Wasn't it traces of sea bass and pork scratchings ?

yes I think it was

[John]

I'm assuming that the letters SY sent to the portuguese police were for permission to dig at PDL then,and not for permission to question various suspects after all? Leaving aside everything that has been in the press,what have SY themselves actually told the public? Well,they have effectively eliminated Tannerman,which changed the timeline somewhat. They have told us that it is important that they identify Smithman. They have told us that Madeleine may not have necessarily left 5a alive. Have I missed anything out?

Yes, they are now convinced that there is a real possibility that Madeleine died and was buried in a grave close to Ocean Club Garden complex 7 years ago.  This in itself rules out Smithman.

[John]

Meanwhile, I wonder what the odds are that dogs will be used in the examinations of the three sites in Portugal ?

A logical procedure of course.

Dogs and ground penetrating radar will both be used.

[Cariad]

Yes, they are now convinced that there is a real possibility that Madeleine died and was buried in a grave close to Ocean Club Garden complex 7 years ago.  This in itself rules out Smithman.

Doesn't that kind of rule stranger abduction out?

[John]

Doesn't that kind of rule stranger abduction out?

It does a bit.  Why take the risk of abducting a child only to kill/bury her?  There is always the Williams-Thomas theory that she woke, wandered but instead of being abducted as he suggested, she was knocked down and killed and buried soon after in the nearby roadworks.  Remember that there were numerous sites around the village where a youngster could be hidden permanently and nobody would bat an eye.

[Mr Gray]

Doesn't that kind of rule stranger abduction out?

depends on the cause of death

[John]

depends on the cause of death

Could be impossible to determine after 7 years Dave.

[Cariad]

Could be impossible to determine after 7 years Dave.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forensic_anthropology

To quote davel, depends on the cause of death.


For instance, your example of a car crash would probably leave sufficient trauma to show up on bones. If the hyoid   is broken it would indicate strangulation.

[stephen25000]

Dogs and ground penetrating radar will both be used.

That would be logical.

The irony being of course, if any dogs used, do find her remains.

and before I get my head bitten off, as will invariably happen with some people, I never wished that Madeleine was dead.

[jassi]

Could be impossible to determine after 7 years Dave.

That would depend on how well preserved remains might be. Physical injury would certainly be detectable.

[Silkywhiskers]

 

I just woke up to this INCREDIBLE news...

The area first identified by - guess who - Amaral and his team.

All over Europe, Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and back again to the field adjacent to where [removed name]  was seen carrying Madeleine.

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[trigger]

this just has to be more than just a 'let's see' move - otherwise why choose the height of the holiday season to dig up a popular resort, after 7 years