So what is the evidence for abduction?

[Alice Purjorick]

It sounds to me like DCI Redwood said (allowing for the Norman Collier bits in the video).
"There was an opportunity in time for an abduction to have taken place and if it did it would have been a criminal act by a stranger".

Any road oop DCI Redwood (ret'd) is now yesterday's man. Have there been any advances since April 2012 do we know ?

[Lace]

It sounds to me like DCI Redwood said (allowing for the Norman Collier bits in the video).
"There was an opportunity in time for an abduction to have taken place and if it did it would have been a criminal act by a stranger".

Any road oop DCI Redwood (ret'd) is now yesterday's man. Have there been any advances since April 2012 do we know ?

Kate McCann has said they are very happy about how the investigation is going.

[jassi]

Kate McCann has said they are very happy about how the investigation is going.

Would you really expect them to say anything different?

[Benice]

Yet they have found nothing.

What experience did Redwood have of 'abductions' ?

A 'forensic analysis of the timelines' means exactly what in these circumstances ?

Did it include Madeleine walking out of the apartment ?

Did it include other scenarios ?

Or were they told solely to investigate abduction ?

Witnesses were telling the truth ?

Do all witnesses tell the truth ?

As we know, the accounts were inconsistent.

You have completely missed the point of my post - which was to show Mercury that his/her claim that DCI Redwood did not actually say that Madeleine's removal from 5A was undertaken by a stranger -  was incorrect. 


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We have conducted a forensic analysis of the timelines and there is clearly opportunity there for Madeleine McCann to have been removed from that apartment alive.
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And it is our belief as experienced investigators - on the evidence - that that is a criminal act that has been undertaken by a stranger.
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So not only his belief - but that of his team of experienced investigators also.

[stephen25000]

You have completely missed the point of my post - which was to show Mercury that his/her claim that DCI Redwood did not actually say that  Madeleine's disappearance was undertaken by a stranger -  was incorrect. 


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And it is our belief as experienced investigators - on the evidence - that that is a criminal act that has been undertaken by a stranger.
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So not only his belief - but that of his team of experienced investigators also.

Really.

How do you know that ?

On just Redwood's word alone ?

I have spoken to police officers I know, and they are not convinced by the mccanns story.

They also reaffirmed that a full investigation was in order, not a one track one.

[Benice]

Really.

How do you know that ?

On just Redwood's word alone ?

I have spoken to police officers I know, and they are not convinced by the mccanns story.

They also reaffirmed that a full investigation was in order, not a one track one.

Dear me -  I give you a quote straight from the horse's mouth - and also recorded on video - and your response is that we only have Redwood's word for that - and that police officers who are not connected to the case know more about it than he does.

LOL.

[Mr Gray]

I did read the whole sentence, the point was, that contrary to what several people here post day in, day out, there is no evidence, and that is official

How that squares with DI Redwoods alledged claim that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger I have no idea (but he never actually said that exactly)

it is not official...it is just a civil servants badly worded view...that is why it doesn't square with Redwood's view.
There is certainly evidence but not proof of abduction

[Carana]

There often isn't.

A 5-year-old in France appears to have been abducted from her bed in the middle of the night earlier this week and taken / thrown out of the window of her bedroom on the 1st floor. The rest of the family were asleep and didn't wake up.

Luckily, she was able to scream from where she'd been dumped and neighbours woke up, found her and raised the alert. One or more witnesses saw a man running away. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6044.msg252440#msg252440

[stephen25000]

Dear me -  I give you a quote straight from the horse's mouth - and also recorded on video - and your response is that we only have Redwood's word for that - and that police officers who are not connected to the case know more about it than he does.

LOL.

and  SY   have found ????


and do you seriously believe in your wildest imagination all police officers believe the mccanns version of events ?

 

[Mr Gray]

and  SY   have found ????


and do you seriously believe in your wildest imagination all police officers believe the mccanns version of events ?

 

as all police are not the brightest it doesn't surprise me that some do not believe in abduction

[stephen25000]

as all police are not the brightest it doesn't surprise me that some do not believe in abduction

How do you know the investigative team have achieved anything ?

As to the officers I know, they are well experienced, and do know their ar## from their elbow.

[Mr Gray]

How do you know the investigative team have achieved anything ?

As to the officers I know, they are well experienced, and do know their ar## from their elbow.

in your opinion

[Alice Purjorick]

All coppers are bright provided they say MM was abducted by a stranger.

[Mr Gray]

All coppers are bright provided they say MM was abducted by a stranger.

no...if they say that they are liars and just being told what to say...do keep up

[Alice Purjorick]

no...if they say that they are liars and just being told what to say...do keep up

You said:
"as all police are not the brightest it doesn't surprise me that some do not believe in abduction"

I can see no provisos attached to that statement.