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Offline Angelo222

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #375 on: July 04, 2015, 04:28:09 PM »
So when he says that as an experienced investigator it's his belief that Madeleine was taken from the apartment in a criminal act by a stranger you don't think he actually meant it, is that what you believe? &%+((£

So where is Redwood now?   Gone Gone Gone
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Offline jassi

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #376 on: July 04, 2015, 04:34:40 PM »
Gone but not forgotten   @)(++(*   Busy writing his memoirs, maybe.

Replaced by the dynamic ?  Ms Wall, who hasn't been seen for a while.
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ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #377 on: July 04, 2015, 04:37:34 PM »
So where is Redwood now?   Gone Gone Gone

Retired ...

Offline Angelo222

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #378 on: July 04, 2015, 04:40:55 PM »
Redwood had no evidence to support an abduction any more than anyone else had.  His belief that Tannerman was not carrying Madeleine is based on a possibility.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #379 on: July 04, 2015, 05:16:47 PM »
DCI Redwood was an experienced investigator. Does anyone have any idea therefore why he made himself look anything but when he explained away Tannerman?

1. How likely is it that the man they found still had exactly the same outfit in his wardrobe (and remembered what he was wearing)
2. How likely is it that they still had the pyjamas their child wore that night (and remembered which ones it was wearing)
3. How likely is it that this man picked up his child dressed only in pyjamas from the night creche on a chiily night and instead of rushing it back to the apartment took it for a walk around the town then headed back towards the creche (where had he been?)
1 and 2 could be explained by holiday snaps, plus look-a-like clothes in place of the originals.
3 Is the sticking point.  At some point I'll look for guests accommodated E of the sighting with a 2 year old.

However, this bugged me so much I went back to the programme.  He had dismissed the T9, and this dismissed the Tanner sighting.

He then went on a wide-spectrum trawl, that covered everything (except sex assaults, and he did that elsewhere).

I concluded that he wanted people to look beyond the T9 and Tannerman, and go back to scratch on the rest.  Knock out the T9 and Tannerman and get public response to all other alternatives.

I could be wrong of course.  I'm trying to make sense of the four arguidos after the Luz dig, and SY seem to be acting pretty oddly on this too.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #380 on: July 04, 2015, 05:20:02 PM »
So where is Redwood now?   Gone Gone Gone
So what?

Offline jassi

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #381 on: July 04, 2015, 05:22:16 PM »
So what?

Why not? - we've pulled everyone else to pieces   @)(++(*
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #382 on: July 04, 2015, 05:23:43 PM »
Why not? - we've pulled everyone else to pieces   @)(++(*
Sorry I don't follow you - who is it you want to pull to pieces that hasn't been done already?

Offline jassi

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #383 on: July 04, 2015, 05:28:18 PM »
Sorry I don't follow you - who is it you want to pull to pieces that hasn't been done already?

I don't want to pull anyone to pieces, but the person under discussion was Redwood - as you well know.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #384 on: July 04, 2015, 05:37:38 PM »
1 and 2 could be explained by holiday snaps, plus look-a-like clothes in place of the originals.
3 Is the sticking point.  At some point I'll look for guests accommodated E of the sighting with a 2 year old.

However, this bugged me so much I went back to the programme.  He had dismissed the T9, and this dismissed the Tanner sighting.

He then went on a wide-spectrum trawl, that covered everything (except sex assaults, and he did that elsewhere).

I concluded that he wanted people to look beyond the T9 and Tannerman, and go back to scratch on the rest.  Knock out the T9 and Tannerman and get public response to all other alternatives.

I could be wrong of course.  I'm trying to make sense of the four arguidos after the Luz dig, and SY seem to be acting pretty oddly on this too.

He may have had a pic of his outfit, but unless he knew which day he wore it......Would he have a pic of his kid in pyjamas......and remember which day they were worn? I think that's asking too much. Was the guy heading east? Where had he been then?  I'm sure he was desperate to get rid of Tannerman, but it was a bad try imo, and did nothing for his credibility.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #385 on: July 04, 2015, 05:44:41 PM »
I don't want to pull anyone to pieces, but the person under discussion was Redwood - as you well know.
I just didn't understand your comment in response to mine querying why Redwood having retired had any bearing on his views expressed prior to retirement.  Oh well, never mind, I guess you were just bored and at a loss for something vaguely interesting to say.  8(0(*

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #386 on: July 04, 2015, 05:47:12 PM »
He may have had a pic of his outfit, but unless he knew which day he wore it......Would he have a pic of his kid in pyjamas......and remember which day they were worn? I think that's asking too much. Was the guy heading east? Where had he been then?  I'm sure he was desperate to get rid of Tannerman, but it was a bad try imo, and did nothing for his credibility.
So, what are you implying?  That Crecheman doesn't actually exist?

Offline G-Unit

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #387 on: July 04, 2015, 05:58:30 PM »
So, what are you implying?  That Crecheman doesn't actually exist?

I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that Redwoods explanation wasn't believable for at least the three reasons I gave. That's why Redwood's other announcements can't be relied on.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #388 on: July 04, 2015, 06:09:02 PM »
I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that Redwoods explanation wasn't believable for at least the three reasons I gave. That's why Redwood's other announcements can't be relied on.
Well what you do seem to be saying is that we shouldn't believe what he told us, aren't you?  You are implying something underhand for sure.

Offline Carana

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #389 on: July 04, 2015, 06:26:24 PM »
I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that Redwoods explanation wasn't believable for at least the three reasons I gave. That's why Redwood's other announcements can't be relied on.

Redwood was the frontman. I would think that other members of the team had been involved in sorting out whether crecheman could have been Tannerman or not. If the details that he's told them make sense to them and / or have been verified, then that is how they came to their conclusion that it could well have been him.

SY was under no obligation to give more detail than necessary to make the point and, in fact, had a duty to protect the family's privacy.

The fact that his route seems odd could be for any number of reasons: he could have walked back with someone living elsewhere, had a lift part of the way, stopped off somewhere for some reason, had a lousy sense of direction... who knows?