So what is the evidence for abduction?

[Carew]

You've obviously forgotten the Op Grange remit which uses the word abduction.

Including "abduction" of a corpse.

Odd word to use in light of comments regarding the possibility that Madeleine may not have been alive when removed from the apartment.

[G-Unit]

You've obviously forgotten the Op Grange remit which uses the word abduction.

True, and then Hogan-Howe mentioned investigating the murder of......Perhaps he didn't read the remit?

[stephen25000]

It does seem BHH wasn't reading the script.

[Alfred R Jones]

True, and then Hogan-Howe mentioned investigating the murder of......Perhaps he didn't read the remit?

You're probably not aware that some abductions do indeed end in murder, which might explain it.

[Alice Purjorick]

Seriously?  You have no idea of any action taken by Op Grange since the 2012 announcement?

Not a clue other than reading lots of files, peering into a few holes in PdL last year, appearing on Crime Watch a couple of times, visiting Portugal once a month and having PJ interview a few (11?) bods on their behalf. The press said all sorts of things most if not all of which did not come to pass and DCI Redwood gave a few TV interviews where he went all Norman Collier.
So cutting to the chase we know naff all, apart from a deathly 'ush from a Nicola direction, but we can have fun guessing.

[Carew]

You're probably not aware that some abductions do indeed end in murder, which might explain it.

Abduction of a corpse?

[Alfred R Jones]

Not a clue other than reading lots of files, peering into a few holes in PdL last year, appearing on Crime Watch a couple of times, visiting Portugal once a month and having PJ interview a few (11?) bods on their behalf. The press said all sorts of things most if not all of which did not come to pass and DCI Redwood gave a few TV interviews where he went all Norman Collier.
So cutting to the chase we know naff all, apart from a deathly 'ush from a Nicola direction, but we can have fun guessing.

So we know quite a lot of what they have done  (and one or two things you chose to gloss over including their focus on break ins and sex attacks on holiday apartments in the Algarve) , and none of it apparently focused on the parents of Madeleine McCann.

[Alfred R Jones]

Abduction of a corpse?

Abduction generally means to take by force or coercion.  If the person is already dead then I would use the word "removal".  What point are you trying to make?

[stephen25000]

So we know quite a lot of what they have done  (and one or two things you chose to gloss over including their focus on break ins and sex attacks on holiday apartments in the Algarve) , and none of it apparently focused on the parents of Madeleine McCann.

For many, it would seem the investigation is clutching at straws.

That's the trouble with a narrow 'investigation'.

[Carew]

Abduction generally means to take by force or coercion.  If the person is already dead then I would use the word "removal".  What point are you trying to make?

..........that maybe hanging tenaciously to the "abduction" word may not reflect all possibilities under consideration?

[Alfred R Jones]

..........that maybe hanging tenaciously to the "abduction" word may not reflect all possibilities under consideration?

There appear to be two possibilities under consideration 1) that she was abducted and 2) that she was killed in a "burglary / abduction attempt gone wrong" scenario.  What other scenarios do you think the Met are actively considering and what is the evidence to support your belief?

[G-Unit]

You're probably not aware that some abductions do indeed end in murder, which might explain it.

Evidence of abduction - none. So it would be a bit of a leap to assume it lead to murder (although most do, of course)

[Alice Purjorick]

So we know quite a lot of what they have done  (and one or two things you chose to gloss over including their focus on break ins and sex attacks on holiday apartments in the Algarve) , and none of it apparently focused on the parents of Madeleine McCann.

We know three fifths of five eighths of FA about what they have been doing in reality. We know what has been said at infrequent press conferences and what the press "say he says you say she says they are doing"
Ah yes the sex attacks that allegedly took place miles away. Did the British cops say anything about that and have the PJ interview suspects on their behalf ? That would smack of interfering with police operations in another country so I doubt that happened, the British press notwithstanding.
I have no basis for opinion on the latter point; as I stated we don't know what The MPS are doing. Guess away.

[Alfred R Jones]

Evidence of abduction - none. So it would be a bit of a leap to assume it lead to murder (although most do, of course)

If there was no evidence of abduction then why would the Op Grange remit include the word in its remit? I know you seem to think they were told to - but by whom, exactly - and why?

[Alfred R Jones]

We know three fifths of five eighths of FA about what they have been doing in reality. We know what has been said at infrequent press conferences and what the press "say he says you say she says they are doing"
Ah yes the sex attacks that allegedly took place miles away. Did the British cops say anything about that and have the PJ interview suspects on their behalf ? That would smack of interfering with police operations in another country so I doubt that happened, the British press notwithstanding.
I have no basis for opinion on the latter point; as I stated we don't know what The MPS are doing. Guess away.

The British cops have spoken about the sex attacks on the Algarve, yes I believe they have.  You are perfectly at liberty to disbelieve everything we are told by the Met and the press about this investigation if it makes things easier for you to maintain your beliefs - that's entirelyyour choice.  My choice is to trust the Met and to believe what they tell us via the media is broadly the truth.  I guess that makes me a clone or a sheeple or whatever term you want to ascribe to me to make you feel smugly superior.