Jeremy Bamber - Debunking Mike Tesko's strange theories

[Andrea]

There is nothing to stop JB applying to the CCRC again is there? He's going to be a very old man when they keep turning him down.

They wont look at his case with any urgency, they have seen it all and been there too many times. Oh, and worn the t-shirt!

[starryian]

There is nothing to stop JB applying to the CCRC again is there? He's going to be a very old man when they keep turning him down.

They wont look at his case with any urgency, they have seen it all and been there too many times. Oh, and worn the t-shirt!

Technically Andrea he can apply to the CCRC ad infinitum. However, the evidence that is presented before them must be substantial, fresh and new. This means that it cannot be a re-hash of old evidence or interpretation of evidence that has previously been submitted and has already been dealt with.
It would take a miracle for him to get substantial fresh evidence 27 years later. What he will do however, is probably keep on and on with the same old tired arguments, theories, plots and cronies. None of which will lead him to the Appeal Court ever again. That last attempt was for all intents and purposes his last chance. I would hazzard a guess and say that the CCRC have now reached the point where they will probably now refuse to review his case again. Bamber is now in a quandary. He knows that he will never see the light of day again in his lifetime. The ONE remaining hope will be for him to admit the crimes in the hope that one day when he is of great age and/or infirmity lay him waste they may let him out. I very much doubt that will happen - his own arrogance led him to commit these horrific murders and it will be his own arrogance that will ensure that he will be kept locked away for the rest of his unnatural life.

[Andrea]

Good post, Ian. One i agree with.

He did challenge the natural life sentence at the ECHR, he lost.

Even if he does come up with new evidence, the CCRC wont rush to deal with it. They have spent hours and hours on his case.

[John]

Anyone seen Tesko's latest? Apparently he has the itemised phone listing of calls made from WHF and 9 Head Street on the night of the murders. Obviously he won't show them for some reason. He says there was a call from WHF to Jeremy and the phone records show the panic button (connected to the phone line) was activated hence the police car sent by Whitham at 3:35am. So at a stroke he admits that Neville didn't call the police as well as Jeremy (which he thought the phone logs proved) thereby admitting he has been talking b*llocks about this for years. He also states that there are records of a phone call from Jeremy to Julie the night before and early in the morning of the murders. Which we already know though he won't specify the times which would have helped. Don't the blue forum allege that the independent witnesses in Julie's house changed their stories  so the time of Jeremy's call fitted the prosecution's case better? If he really had these records why not confirm the exact times of the calls? Also he mentioned a lengthy conversation between June and Pam Boutflour. However, isn't it on record that it was Pam who called June, so why would an inbound call show on the telephone records? I may have missed something but isn't Tesko's latest revelation based on stuff we already know, and not entirely accurate based on what we do know? And wild speculation about the panic button which cannot be proved, and if it could have been surely the police would have known that someone pressed the panic button while Jeremy would still have been in his house, therefore there would have been no grounds to suspect Jeremy. I wonder if anyone else has seen his latest crazy theories and what they think of them?

Well I can confirm that there is no such itemised accounts for either of the two telephone accounts.  I have spoken with the person who dealt with all these matters and they confirm that the telephone account was paid by units logging.  There is no record of what calls were made at what time from any of the phones.

Mike Tesko is a liar who will do or say just about anything to free Bamber.  Fortunately we have all got wise to him now.

Well you may be able to confirm this, but I have viewed the itemised bills, from 1982.

There is no such thing and in any event what relevance has a bill from 1982 to do with the murders?

[starryian]

I have researched the question of itemised billing thoroughly. I have now got the answer. Itemised billing was NOT available until February 1991 and only then on the new digital exchanges.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/about/history.htm

Itemised billing was NOT available in 1985.

[puglove]

I have researched the question of itemised billing thoroughly. I have now got the answer. Itemised billing was NOT available until February 1991 and only then on the new digital exchanges.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/about/history.htm

Itemised billing was NOT available in 1985.

So yet again Mike Tesko is found to be "bending the truth." Putting it politely.

[starryian]

I have researched the question of itemised billing thoroughly. I have now got the answer. Itemised billing was NOT available until February 1991 and only then on the new digital exchanges.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/about/history.htm

Itemised billing was NOT available in 1985.

So yet again Mike Tesko is found to be "bending the truth." Putting it politely.

Absolutely Gordon. Tesko has bent the truth so often that now resembles a demolition derby track. I really don't see what he gains from this at all. Most of what he says does not even stand up to the merest of scrutiny.
All this means that he is trying to hide from the fact that Bamber is guilty and no amount of truth-bending will ever alter that.

[John]

I have researched the question of itemised billing thoroughly. I have now got the answer. Itemised billing was NOT available until February 1991 and only then on the new digital exchanges.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/about/history.htm

Itemised billing was NOT available in 1985.

So yet again Mike Tesko is found to be "bending the truth." Putting it politely.

Absolutely Gordon. Tesko has bent the truth so often that now resembles a demolition derby track. I really don't see what he gains from this at all. Most of what he says does not even stand up to the merest of scrutiny.
All this means that he is trying to hide from the fact that Bamber is guilty and no amount of truth-bending will ever alter that.

Indeed guys.  First it was Ali Bongo and the elusive 'z' fairy tales, then the lies about seeing a photo of Sheila lying on a bed with one wound to her neck when he allegedly visited the offices of former Bamber lawyer and now CCRC Commissioner Ewan Smith and now the latest crap about non existent itemised phone bills supposedly related to White House Farm and the cottage at Goldhanger when such were not available at the time.

We mustn't forget the downright sick and twisted malicious allegations he has also made that Jeremy was actually fathered by Prince Philip and that Nevill was the father of Sheila's twins.

Does Mike Teskowski not realise that he is a laughing stock now and even amomg those who once worshipped him and his crazy theories.

[John]

'Itemised billing was first introduced on a trial basis in parts of Bristol and Bath in 1983', so if they were capable of doing it in Bristol and Bath, they must have had technology to do it even if it wasn't offered to the customer, I'd have thought it would be if the police needed it for a trail-unless it didn't exist (the phone calls to match the evidence).


http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2011/02/telephones-from-numbering-to-call-costs-and-codes/?lang=cy

Two points in relation to all this:

Firstly, we know that there was no itemised billing in August 1985 for the Maldon exchange because the police went to so much bother to try to nail down the time of the call that Jeremy made to Julie around 3am.  Had such information been available from the GPO then the police would not have had to have done all the interviews they did.

Secondly, we can be very certain that if itemised billing had been avaiable that Jeremy Bambers original lawyer would have had it as a matter of some priority.  Barbara Wilson knew that no such billing existed at the time and would have had this bill if it existed. Bottom line is it didn't.

 

[Angelo222]

Of course they didn't, if they did, they'd have been out at the original trial. Tesko is saying it in the hope it would majestically come out now after 25 years. he needs to get in touch with Kevin Craigie and MI5 

Don't know about MI5 but he certainly posts on the blue forum with impunity.  You can tell his atrocious spelling and punctuation anywhere.

[jackiepreece]

I thought entwistle was already in an American prison

[starryian]

'Itemised billing was first introduced on a trial basis in parts of Bristol and Bath in 1983', so if they were capable of doing it in Bristol and Bath, they must have had technology to do it even if it wasn't offered to the customer, I'd have thought it would be if the police needed it for a trail-unless it didn't exist (the phone calls to match the evidence).


http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2011/02/telephones-from-numbering-to-call-costs-and-codes/?lang=cy

Joanne the itemised billing could only have been in effect of the exchanges were digital not the analogue variety. Highly unlikely if it were an area as rural as southern Essex. Trials did begin in 1983 but in some very selected cities where the new digital exchanges were being set up.  In took the better part of 8 years to switch over the majority of UK telephone exchanges from analogue to digital. A little bit like the conversion of TV signals in recent years. In short there was no itemised billing available for most people until February 1991.

[starryian]

I've just broken my own rules and been on the blue forum and now I'm in a bad mood.
Raise your glasses to the biggest **** on the internet-Mike Tesko.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2969.0.html?PHPSESSID=b92f2e8413032142efac3525b6d85654
I hope karma comes to you soon son.

Dont worry Joanne. Tesko has lost any credibility he did have when he started coming up with crackpot theories in an ever-increasing, desperate effort to try to get Bamber off.

His weird statements don't count. Yours do. We all love ya 

[Dillon]

I've just broken my own rules and been on the blue forum and now I'm in a bad mood.
Raise your glasses to the biggest **** on the internet-Mike Tesko.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2969.0.html?PHPSESSID=b92f2e8413032142efac3525b6d85654
I hope karma comes to you soon son.

Then I guess you have seen his  " She was on a mission etc " thread ! Locked , I think, so he is just posting to himself. Bit like talking to yourself, I suppose; said to be a sign of lunacy . By the way, when is it the full moon ? Too dark and cloudy here to know. I wonder if our Mike howls like a wolf when the moon is full. Pretty sick really.
 

[only me]

That whole thread is very unfortunate.  If Mike has anyone over there who counts themself as a real friend, they really need to talk to him.