Jeremy Bamber - Debunking Mike Tesko's strange theories

[puglove]

Good evening, everybody. Jeremy here. Can I just say how over the bloody moon I am that a forum dedicated to getting me out of prison is being used to discuss the merits of jumbo sauages? I really, really couldn't be more delighted. Keep up the good work, susan ingham from Yorkshire. I can almost taste that pot noodle.   

[jackiepreece]

If people keep ignoring Kevin Craigie won't he just go away he has clearly got issues

[Joanne]

I think they've tried that on other sites, it doesn't work 

[Myster]

I can't believe how Roch hasn't seen through Craigie's ventriloquist act.  >@@(*&)

[Joanne]

I have just told him in a pm. I swore down I wouldn't post on the boards but I will not sit and watch my friends being torn to bits on a forum. What KC fails to remember is that the person he is venting at stuck his neck out to help him when he first joined here, Kevin is the liar and nobody else and now he has been brought down by his lies, I will not tolerate him being nasty to someone else because of hid own actions.

[puglove]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

[puglove]

Ssssshhhh, Mike.

We ALL know that you don't know what you're talking about. Because if you had a single shred of evidence that would help JB, you'd use it. Why wouldn't you? All that bluster, all that bullshit. All the smoke screens.

I suppose it keeps you off the streets.

[John]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

I see he has moved on to the polygraph testing again and Mullins expert opinion.   

[John]

Ssssshhhh, Mike.

We ALL know that you don't know what you're talking about. Because if you had a single shred of evidence that would help JB, you'd use it. Why wouldn't you? All that bluster, all that bullshit. All the smoke screens.

I suppose it keeps you off the streets.

I have one of those ENIGMA computer hard-drives as well with thousands of documents and photos on it.  Bet mine is bigger than his!!   

I also bet Mike Teskowski has an abundance of porn on it as well...poor sod. 

[starryian]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

Good points Shona,
Moreover, the first bullet shattered the 4th vertebra in her neck making it virtually impossible for her to move her head. In short she could not have fired the second, fatal shot.
The pathologist Peter Venezis actually stated that the first shot didn't exclude the possiblity of Sheila being about to move around. This overtly non-comittal phrase opened the proverbial floodgates for people like Bamber and Tesko to come up with all manner of ever-increasingly ridiculous scenarios. We all know that Sheila didn't move after that first shot - Venezis was, as most pathologists are - being over-cautious in their reports. DS Stan Jones shrewdly commented that 'pathologists shouldn't be told anything by the police. They should figure it out for themselves'
Sheila was shot by Bamber in the hope that it would kill her. It didn't. As she fell backwards from the first shot, her head hit the bedside cabinet immediately placed behind her, leaving her head at an angle which covered the wound and allowing the blood to flow,  seen on her nightdress; downwards and at an angle -  if Sheila was the killer and wanted to shoot herself, her shattered vertebrae would have made it impossible for her to move her head for the second shot - It is possible to deduce that Bamber pulled her by the ankles in order to straighten her and to expose her chin and fired a second, fatal shot. She could NOT have placed herself in that position.
The conclusion is; is that Sheila Caffell did NOT shoot herself and if she did not, someone else MUST have, that someone else can ONLY be Jeremy Bamber to the exclusion of ALL others.

[Jerry]

Ssssshhhh, Mike.

We ALL know that you don't know what you're talking about. Because if you had a single shred of evidence that would help JB, you'd use it. Why wouldn't you? All that bluster, all that bullshit. All the smoke screens.

I suppose it keeps you off the streets.

I have one of those ENIGMA computer hard-drives as well with thousands of documents and photos on it.  Bet mine is bigger than his!!   

I also bet Mike Teskowski has an abundance of porn on it as well...poor sod.

Is Tesko into porn then???

[puglove]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

I see he has moved on to the polygraph testing again and Mullins expert opinion.   

Rochy hates when I say this, but it is a PIECE OF PISS to pass a lie detector. All you need is a drawing pin in your shoe.

[John]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

I see he has moved on to the polygraph testing again and Mullins expert opinion.   

Rochy hates when I say this, but it is a PIECE OF PISS to pass a lie detector. All you need is a drawing pin in your shoe.

...or are institutionalised and don't know what the truth is any more.

[puglove]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

I see he has moved on to the polygraph testing again and Mullins expert opinion.   

Rochy hates when I say this, but it is a PIECE OF PISS to pass a lie detector. All you need is a drawing pin in your shoe.

...or are institutionalised and don't know what the truth is any more.

Or a cold hearted psychopath who has openly bragged about wiping out his family for a year before he did it. And the disgusting behaviour afterwards. He really isn't the blue eyed boy, is he? Sniggering over the images of Sheila, when the poor girl wasn't even cold. What was he doing in her flat anyway? Horrible.

[John]

How can ANYONE look at the close-up image of Sheila's throat and still support the preposterous idea that she was ever upright after the first shot, moving from the kitchen to the bedroom? Her body was obviously moved very, very slightly between shots, just enough to expose under her chin for a more efficient second shot. And both blood tracks exhibit the same sheen, so the wet blood theory is rubbish, too. No wonder Mike tries to distract the last few supporters with his conspiracy theories. He'd have to get a new hobby if one of them found the courage to challenge him as to why there is no downward blood flow.

Good points Shona,
Moreover, the first bullet shattered the 4th vertebra in her neck making it virtually impossible for her to move her head. In short she could not have fired the second, fatal shot.
The pathologist Peter Venezis actually stated that the first shot didn't exclude the possiblity of Sheila being about to move around. This overtly non-comittal phrase opened the proverbial floodgates for people like Bamber and Tesko to come up with all manner of ever-increasingly ridiculous scenarios. We all know that Sheila didn't move after that first shot - Venezis was, as most pathologists are - being over-cautious in their reports. DS Stan Jones shrewdly commented that 'pathologists shouldn't be told anything by the police. They should figure it out for themselves'
Sheila was shot by Bamber in the hope that it would kill her. It didn't. As she fell backwards from the first shot, her head hit the bedside cabinet immediately placed behind her, leaving her head at an angle which covered the wound and allowing the blood to flow,  seen on her nightdress; downwards and at an angle -  if Sheila was the killer and wanted to shoot herself, her shattered vertebrae would have made it impossible for her to move her head for the second shot - It is possible to deduce that Bamber pulled her by the ankles in order to straighten her and to expose her chin and fired a second, fatal shot. She could NOT have placed herself in that position.
The conclusion is; is that Sheila Caffell did NOT shoot herself and if she did not, someone else MUST have, that someone else can ONLY be Jeremy Bamber to the exclusion of ALL others.

I know we have touched on this previously but something which has always bothered me is the total lack of emotion on Sheila's face.  No pain, no shock, no sign of any fear and not a tear.  This is certainly very odd.

I read a comment yesterday where it has been suggested that Jeremy Bamber applied a mild undetectable anaesthetic to Sheila in order to incapacitate her while he murdered the others.  I know there was no sign of such a compound in her bloodstream but it may not have shown up if used in small quantities.

Any views on this one?   >@@(*&)