The locked front door versus the unlocked rear patio door issue.

[pathfinder73]

Yes Gerry left through the patio door so it is now unlocked when he left so Matt or Kate could enter. He had to use a key to get in.

"at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked, and went to the children's bedroom and noted that the twins and Madeleine were in perfect condition. He then went to the toilet, where he remained for a few instants, left the apartment, and then crossed ways with someone with whom he had played tennis, who had a baby buggy, also a British citizen, with whom he had a brief conversation. He then returned to the restaurant." (4 May)

No mention about the door being moved. Everything changes a week later.

[Mr Gray]

Yes Gerry left through the patio door so it is now unlocked when he left so Matt or Kate could enter. He had to use a key to get in.

"at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked, and went to the children's bedroom and noted that the twins and Madeleine were in perfect condition. He then went to the toilet, where he remained for a few instants, left the apartment, and then crossed ways with someone with whom he had played tennis, who had a baby buggy, also a British citizen, with whom he had a brief conversation. He then returned to the restaurant." (4 May)

No mention about the door being moved.

so on this occasion Gerry entered through the locked front door

[pathfinder73]

so on this occasion Gerry entered through the locked front door

Yes so the apartment had to be locked when they left at 8:30. When Gerry left after his check the patio door was now unlocked so Matt could enter at 9:30.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes Gerry left through the patio door so it is now unlocked when he left so Matt or Kate could enter. He had to use a key to get in.

"at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, using his key, the door being locked, and went to the children's bedroom and noted that the twins and Madeleine were in perfect condition. He then went to the toilet, where he remained for a few instants, left the apartment, and then crossed ways with someone with whom he had played tennis, who had a baby buggy, also a British citizen, with whom he had a brief conversation. He then returned to the restaurant." (4 May)

No mention about the door being moved.

Gerry McCann (statement, 10 May 2007)

‘He walked the normal route up to the back door, which being open he only had to slide, and while he was entering the living room, he noticed that the children's bedroom door was not ajar as he had left it but half-way open, which he thought was strange.'

[Mr Gray]

Yes so the apartment had to be locked when they left at 8:30. When Gerry left after his check the patio door was now unlocked so Matt could enter at 9:30.

the front door onto the street  was locked but the patio door was closed but not locked

[stephen25000]

It has yet to be proved whether the doors were open or closed.

Merely because someone states a door was unlocked, does not make it true.

[pathfinder73]

the front door onto the street  was locked but the patio door was closed but not locked

No the patio door was locked otherwise he wouldn't go all the way round to the other side and use his key to enter.

[pathfinder73]

IMO the person was inside the apartment from around 10 to 9 until after M Oldfield's visit. The statements mentioning the doors would confirm this..

So you believe the change in statements. A key to not using a key so the alleged abductor can now enter with no trouble and be seen by Tanner. Why? That's very shabby detective work. Are you that easily manipulated?

[Wonderfulspam]

So you believe the change in statements. A key to not using a key so the alleged abductor can now enter with no trouble and be seen by Tanner. Why? That's very shabby detective work. Are you that easily manipulated?

He reckons he's a crime writer dont you know.

More like jackanory.

[Mr Gray]

So you believe the change in statements. A key to not using a key so the alleged abductor can now enter with no trouble and be seen by Tanner. Why? That's very shabby detective work. Are you that easily manipulated?

I still think you are wrong...Gerry used a key to enter via the locked front door...there is no change in satements..no lies

[pathfinder73]

I still think you are wrong...Gerry used a key to enter via the locked front door...there is no change in satements..no lies

Why would he use a key to enter if the patio door was unlocked. Don't ask stupid questions.

[Mr Gray]

Why would he use a key to enter if the patio door was unlocked. Don't ask stupid questions.

  This is what I posted...
I still think you are wrong...Gerry used a key to enter via the locked front door...there is no change in satements..no lies

As you will see it is not a question...your post is a question so you are the one asking stupid questions..


He entered the locked front door because that was the one that was closest to him

[pathfinder73]

  This is what I posted...
I still think you are wrong...Gerry used a key to enter via the locked front door...there is no change in satements..no lies

As you will see it is not a question...your post is a question so you are the one asking stupid questions..


He entered the locked front door because that was the one that was closest to him

How was that door closest coming from the tapas bar? That's much further away. You had to walk all the way round and through the car park. Unlocked patio door straight up steps and in.

[Mr Gray]

How was that door closest coming from the tapas bar? That's much further away. You had to walk all the way round and through the car park. Unlocked patio door straight up steps and in.

do you have a link to a map

[pathfinder73]

Red arrow line shows the route to door with key to enter. Blue line to unlocked patio door.