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Offline John

Re: Kevin Halligen. McCanns and the Conman. Ch5 documentary.
« Reply #150 on: June 05, 2014, 06:49:01 PM »
It wasn't their first choice.  Do you really think that given the choice between spending huge amounts of cash on an "illegal" investigation and cooperating with a law enforcement that actually did its job properly that they wouldn't' have chosen the latter?

Even stranger then that they chose the least desirable option?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Cariad

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« Reply #151 on: June 05, 2014, 06:49:23 PM »
It wasn't their first choice.  Do you really think that given the choice between spending huge amounts of cash on an "illegal" investigation and cooperating with a law enforcement that actually did its job properly that they wouldn't' have chosen the latter?

They chose not to participate in a reconstruction and not to answer questions.

It wasn't their cash they were spending either.

Whether you like it or not, they didn't cooperate fully with the investigating force and they didn't highlight this significant lead that Exton came up with. They did pay vast quantities of cash on dodgy PI's and they did splash tannerman over every available surface.

I'm not saying any of that equates to involvement in their daughters disappearance. Just a bit odd, really.
 

Offline Carana

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« Reply #152 on: June 05, 2014, 06:59:07 PM »
They didn't have to break the Law had they fully cooperated with the official investigation instead of attempting to influence it.

As far as satellite imagery is concerned wasn't it a dark cloudy night on 3rd May 2007? I don't think they have invented a camera yet that can take photos in the dark at a height of 30 miles through clouds.

When did the McCanns not cooperate fully in accordance with the law?

Alfred R Jones

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« Reply #153 on: June 05, 2014, 07:23:17 PM »
I guess it not being their own hard earned long green folding stuff but public subscriptions may have coloured their judgement a little. Who knows.
Oh?  I thought as soon as it hit the Fund account it made them millionaires?  Isn't that standard doubter logic?

Alfred R Jones

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« Reply #154 on: June 05, 2014, 07:24:04 PM »
Even stranger then that they chose the least desirable option?
Only after the most desirable option turned out to be no option at all.

Alfred R Jones

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« Reply #155 on: June 05, 2014, 07:27:00 PM »
They chose not to participate in a reconstruction and not to answer questions.

It wasn't their cash they were spending either.

Whether you like it or not, they didn't cooperate fully with the investigating force and they didn't highlight this significant lead that Exton came up with. They did pay vast quantities of cash on dodgy PI's and they did splash tannerman over every available surface.

I'm not saying any of that equates to involvement in their daughters disappearance. Just a bit odd, really.
They did not refuse to take part in a reconstruction.  And at least 50% of the McCanns DID answer all the questions.  In fact they co-operated fully up to the point when then were told plead guilty and you'd only get 2 years in chokey.  I mean, I'm sure you'd feel very positive towards any police force that put that to you and would co-operate fully, doing everything they asked, right?

stephen25000

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« Reply #156 on: June 05, 2014, 07:34:31 PM »
They did not refuse to take part in a reconstruction.  And at least 50% of the McCanns DID answer all the questions.  In fact they co-operated fully up to the point when then were told plead guilty and you'd only get 2 years in chokey.  I mean, I'm sure you'd feel very positive towards any police force that put that to you and would co-operate fully, doing everything they asked, right?

Ah that old myth again.


Don't you know Portuguese Law. ?


Alfred R Jones

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« Reply #157 on: June 05, 2014, 07:38:08 PM »
She didn't see the guy she identified which in the opinion of certain people involved in the investigation make her unreliable.....now you get over it. BTW do you have a cite to confirm the met stating what time crecheman passed or are you just assuming?
None of that actually makes her reliable. It's just making excuses for the unreliability of her claim.
I don't NEED a cite from the Met confirming what time crecheman passed by because they made it clear that they had 'almost certainly' ruled out JT's sighting being the abductor - something they would not be able to do if the timings were out.  Unless you think SY would rule out JT's sighting based on crecheman giving them a time significantly different from that time which JT said she saw a man outside Apt 5A?

stephen25000

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« Reply #158 on: June 05, 2014, 07:48:40 PM »

Was the sky cloudy or clear ?

« Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 08:20:13 PM by John »

Cariad

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« Reply #159 on: June 05, 2014, 07:49:23 PM »
They did not refuse to take part in a reconstruction.  And at least 50% of the McCanns DID answer all the questions.  In fact they co-operated fully up to the point when then were told plead guilty and you'd only get 2 years in chokey.  I mean, I'm sure you'd feel very positive towards any police force that put that to you and would co-operate fully, doing everything they asked, right?

Alright, I'll try to answer as honestly as I can.

It's really , really hard for me to 'get over' them leaving the kids alone, so my first thought is that I'd never have been in that position. I immediately jump to 'how could they do that'? I find it almost impossible to put that to one side and start from the point that you and others seem to, which is not why Madeleine went missing in the first place, but that she is missing.

What would I have done if my child was missing in a foreign country and I thought I was about to be fitted up?
Beg probably. Beg and plead. I think I would've cooperated fully in the hope that doing so would eliminate me from their inquires.

 

Offline jassi

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« Reply #160 on: June 05, 2014, 07:49:28 PM »
Did any doubter fancy concocting a plausible theory that answers the above?

Perhaps they just wanted to be reassured that the (non-existent) satellite images didn't show anything of use to the investigation.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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« Reply #161 on: June 05, 2014, 07:49:36 PM »
Ah that old myth again.


Don't you know Portuguese Law. ?
The law that says it's illegal to torture suspects?  Or which one specifically did you have in mind?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Kevin Halligen. McCanns and the Conman. Ch5 documentary.
« Reply #162 on: June 05, 2014, 07:50:41 PM »
Perhaps they just wanted to be reassured that the (non-existent) satellite images didn't show anything of use to the investigation.
Erm...how did they know they in advance that they were non-existent and how would they know what they would or would not show?

stephen25000

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« Reply #163 on: June 05, 2014, 07:51:18 PM »
The law that says it's illegal to torture suspects?  Or which one specifically did you have in mind?

Making deals sunshine.  8((()*/

As to torture, who was tortured in this case ???

You will have to do better than that.

Cariad

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« Reply #164 on: June 05, 2014, 07:51:52 PM »
Erm...how did they know they in advance that they were non-existent and how would they know what they would or would not show?

Well they wouldn't, hence the desire to see them.