The ILOR's and the CPS

[John]

1. He was a Spanish resident, not a holidaymaker.
2. I understand the suspect has been apprehended, so there is no relevance to your post.

Actually many ex pats never register residency in Spain and Portugal any more so the resident versus holidaymaker argument no longer applies.  I think it should also be borne in mind that SY have no authority in Portugal and are only operating through the goodwill extended to them by the Portuguese Ministry.

If suspects are at some point identified, it will be a matter of agreement as to who prosecutes them but the Portuguese have first dibs since the crime occurred on their soil.

The fact that Madeleine, as a minor, is a Ward of an English Court also carries some weight.

[misty]

Crown v Cheong. 2006.

[Alfred R Jones]

I believe the CPS played a role in the case of the murdered in Kenya British woman Julie Ward

[icabodcrane]

I believe the CPS played a role in the case of the murdered in Kenya British woman Julie Ward

What role did the CPS play in the Julie Ward case  ?

[Alfred R Jones]

What role did the CPS play in the Julie Ward case  ?

I'm not sure if it ever got to that stage actually but the intention was certainly there:


Mr Ward added: “I am becoming very impatient because this person seen armed with a rifle in my daughter's vehicle could hold vital information

into her death and he can be traced.

“I have no problems with the officers from Lincolnshire Police who have been working on the ground, they have done an excellent job, but I am concerned about what is going on from above to cause such delays.

“I fear the situation is becoming political and that perhaps police officials have lost sight of the entire reason for this review - and that is to solve my daughter's murder.”

Once the IPCC receives the report, it will need to reach its own conclusions before deciding whether any information should be forwarded to the Crown Prosecution Service."

[icabodcrane]

I'm not sure if it ever got to that stage actually but the intention was certainly there:


Mr Ward added: “I am becoming very impatient because this person seen armed with a rifle in my daughter's vehicle could hold vital information

into her death and he can be traced.

“I have no problems with the officers from Lincolnshire Police who have been working on the ground, they have done an excellent job, but I am concerned about what is going on from above to cause such delays.

“I fear the situation is becoming political and that perhaps police officials have lost sight of the entire reason for this review - and that is to solve my daughter's murder.”

Once the IPCC receives the report, it will need to reach its own conclusions before deciding whether any information should be forwarded to the Crown Prosecution Service."

Mr Ward had accused the Metropolitan police of  'colluding'  in the cover-up of his daughter's murder

That was why another enquiry,  by Lincolnshire police was set up ,  and why the Police Complaints Commission were involved

The  involvement of the  Crown Prosecution Service  would have been necessary only if the  Police Complaints Commission came to the conclusion that there had been  wrong-doing by  Metropolitan police officers

It was the Metropolitan police, and their original report   that was  under scrutiny here

Why did you bring this case up when it has no bearing on the case we are currently discussing   ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Mr Ward had accused the Metropolitan police of  'colluding'  in the cover-up of his daughter's murder

That was why another enquiry,  by Lincolnshire police was set up ,  and why the Police Complaints Commission were involved

The  involvement of the  Crown Prosecution Service  would have been necessary only if the  Police Complaints Commission came to the conclusion that there had been  wrong-doing by  Metropolitan police officers

It was the Metropolitan police, and their original report   that was  under scrutiny here

Why did you bring this case up when it has no bearing on the case we are currently discussing   ?

Silkywhiskars: "I am still waiting for an example of CPS involving themselves in a foreign crime - there is none"

[icabodcrane]

Silkywhiskars: "I am still waiting for an example of CPS involving themselves in a foreign crime - there is none"

You brought up a case that had  no bearing on the discussion at hand,  and presented it as if it did

You owe the forum an apology for giving misleading information

[Alfred R Jones]

You brought up a case that had  no bearing on the discussion at hand,  and presented it as if it did

You owe the forum an apology for giving misleading information

I apologise to the forum for giving misleading information.

Would you like me to write it 100 times, Miss?

[misty]

I'm still waiting for the derogatory comments from Silky Whiskers on Crown v Cheong, 2006.

[Alfred R Jones]

In a hurry but have come across this - haven't read it fully and maybe it's already been discussed but I'm parking the link here for now http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/directors_guidance/director_s_guidance_on_concurrent_jurisdiction.html
No doubt it's completely irrelevant in which case I'll come back and do my apology and lines later.

[Carana]

I'm lost.

This was the OP:

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The ILOR's and the CPS
« on: May 31, 2014, 01:10:31 AM »

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The ILOR's weren't about Portugese suspects.

The ILOR's were sent by the CPS - the British CPS who will NEVER have any interest in crimes committed by Portugese nationals.

The CPS deal with prosecutions against British Subjects only.


« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 06:31:47 PM by John »

[Alfred R Jones]

<<SNIP>>
Where crime is committed in more than one jurisdiction, different offences may be committed in different locations. This document provides guidance for CPS prosecutors in cases where criminal investigations have been commenced in more than one jurisdiction and involve suspected criminal conduct that crosses international boundaries. In this document such cases are referred to as cases of concurrent jurisdiction. <<SNIP>>
It will be fun sitting back and watching this thread from here on in as they say.
Good spot Alfie.

Thanks!

[Silkywhiskers]

Can you all show me a case where the British CPS involved itself in charging (under British law) a criminal who was not British, nor residing in Britain, nor committing said crime in Britain?

Thanks.

BUMP~~~~

Keep trying, you won't find such a case because the British CPS does NOT handle crime committed by foreigners in a foreign country.

How ridiculous.

Look at the drug mules in various Bali jails.  They don't have the CPS running an investigation to help them, do they?

Insanity.

[jassi]

In certain cases, the British Ambassador might put in a personal appearance, though