Bamber tries to sell nude pictures of Sheila to The Sun newspaper

[Holly Goodhead]

When did the meeting between the hack and JB take place?

[G-Unit]

JM's wit stat mentions bugging.

It's officially documented that officers went to her shared house ostensibly to check the alarm clocks.

Police searched SC's flat for diaries etc.

Plenty of opportunity for bugging.  Plus JB was under surveillance for a period of time.

It's well known hacks and the police work hand in glove feeding off one another.

Those from the MM board will have knowledge of dodgy cops, leaks, tabloids, grubby hacks.

Then there's loose lips. There were nude photos of Sheila at the farm in her mother's bureau. [CC's book] Someone could have told the hack they existed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

JM's wit stat mentions bugging.

It's officially documented that officers went to her shared house ostensibly to check the alarm clocks.

Police searched SC's flat for diaries etc.

Plenty of opportunity for bugging.  Plus JB was under surveillance for a period of time.

It's well known hacks and the police work hand in glove feeding off one another.

Those from the MM board will have knowledge of dodgy cops, leaks, tabloids, grubby hacks.

Right.  So it was a conspiracy to stitch Jeremy up engineered between the police and the Sun newspaper.  Jesus H. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Then there's loose lips. There were nude photos of Sheila at the farm in her mother's bureau. [CC's book] Someone could have told the hack they existed.

I thought you didn't do speculation of the "someone could have" variety?  Any evidence for this claim? 

[APRIL]

Right.  So it was a conspiracy to stitch Jeremy up engineered between the police and the Sun newspaper.  Jesus H.

According to blue, it involves every conspiracy known to man, and then some. Starting with West and Bonnett colluding to withhold the information that Nevill had already called them, in case it was decided to charge Jeremy!!!

[Holly Goodhead]

Right.  So it was a conspiracy to stitch Jeremy up engineered between the police and the Sun newspaper.  Jesus H.

You seem to be doing what you accuse G-Unit of doing with McCanns ie you believe the McCanns over the tabloids and dodgy cops and yet with JB you hold tight!

If MM went missing in 1985 instead of 2007 do you think the McCanns would have escaped an injustice if it wasn't for team McCann?

I have no such problem as I don't believe the McCanns were involved with MM's disappearance and I don't believe JB was involved with the murders.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You seem to be doing what you accuse G-Unit of doing with McCanns ie you believe the McCanns over the tabloids and dodgy cops and yet with JB you hold tight!

If MM went missing in 1985 instead of 2007 do you think the McCanns would have escaped an injustice if it wasn't for team McCann?

I have no such problem as I don't believe the McCanns were involved with MM's disappearance and I don't believe JB was involved with the murders.

a) The McCanns are not convicted mass murderers and b) where have I ever said I believe the McCanns over the tabloids, except where it has been proven that the tabloids by their own admission invented stories?  Over to you. 

[Holly Goodhead]

a) The McCanns are not convicted mass murderers and b) where have I ever said I believe the McCanns over the tabloids, except where it has been proven that the tabloids by their own admission invented stories?  Over to you.

a) Forget the fact the McCanns were not involved in any wrongdoing in terms of direct involvement with MM's disappearance.  They were not charged with any crime because they managed to engineer the most amazing support network ever. Had they been left pretty much to their own devices as JB was I doubt they would ever have left Portugal.

b) Similar to above.  Without the support network the tabloids would have had a field day.

[Vertigo Swirl]

a) Forget the fact the McCanns were not involved in any wrongdoing in terms of direct involvement with MM's disappearance.  They were not charged with any crime because they managed to engineer the most amazing support network ever. Had they been left pretty much to their own devices as JB was I doubt they would ever have left Portugal.

b) Similar to above.  Without the support network the tabloids would have had a field day.

a) absolute tosh, there was scant evidence against them as the PT authorities admitted in their report and b) the tabloids DID have an absolute field day, so again absolute tosh.

[Holly Goodhead]

a) absolute tosh, there was scant evidence against them as the PT authorities admitted in their report and b) the tabloids DID have an absolute field day, so again absolute tosh.

a) when you drill down there's zero evidence against JB. b) yes the tabloids did have a field day and it cost them some 500k as the McCanns were able to instruct the best libel lawyers in the land.  Conversely JB's defence at trial was funded by legal aid.

[Vertigo Swirl]

a) when you drill down there's zero evidence against JB. b) yes the tabloids did have a field day and it cost them some 500k as the McCanns were able to instruct the best libel lawyers in the land.  Conversely JB's defence at trial was funded by legal aid.

a) to say there is zero evidence against JB is absolute tosh.  It was either him or Sheila.  If there is zero evidence against JB, then there is less than zero evidence against Sheila, so perhaps neither of them did it, and AA is right, it was Mossad. b) you've just moved the goalposts, claiming first that the tabloids having a field day was conditional on the McCanns having support up front, which they did have, and it still didn't stop the tabloids having a field day. 

[Holly Goodhead]

a) to say there is zero evidence against JB is absolute tosh.  It was either him or Sheila.  If there is zero evidence against JB, then there is less than zero evidence against Sheila, so perhaps neither of them did it, and AA is right, it was Mossad. b) you've just moved the goalposts, claiming first that the tabloids having a field day was conditional on the McCanns having support up front, which they did have, and it still didn't stop the tabloids having a field day.

a)there is evidence against SC its the reason senior officers at soc and the police surgeon considered the soc murder/suicide.  Its the reason the pathologist found no evidence to contradict murder/suicide when carrying out the pm's.  Its the reason the only dissenter was a low ranking officer who offered nothing of evidential value.  Its the reason why an independent review said all the evidence pointed to SC.

b) the tabloids had a field day until it was stopped in its tracks by the McCanns legal team which resulted in a 500k settlement and a front page apology.

[Vertigo Swirl]

a)there is evidence against SC its the reason senior officers at soc and the police surgeon considered the soc murder/suicide.  Its the reason the pathologist found no evidence to contradict murder/suicide when carrying out the pm's.  Its the reason the only dissenter was a low ranking officer who offered nothing of evidential value until.  Its the reason why an independent review said all the evidence pointed to SC.

b) the tabloids had a field day until it was stopped in its tracks by the McCanns legal team which resulted in a 500k settlement and a front page apology.

a) there is also an abundance of evidence against Bamber, all of which you choose to scorn because you believe he is a decent, honest individual and that all his relatives are money-grabbing connivers who collaborated with the police and media to stitch him up.  This is a conspiracy theory and it's one you and like-minded individuals have spent years weaving on JB's behalf. 
b) So what?  What has the McCanns' libel action got to do with Jeremy Bamber selling photos to the Sun?

[Robittybob1]

a) to say there is zero evidence against JB is absolute tosh.  It was either him or Sheila.  If there is zero evidence against JB, then there is less than zero evidence against Sheila, so perhaps neither of them did it, and AA is right, it was Mossad. b) you've just moved the goalposts, claiming first that the tabloids having a field day was conditional on the McCanns having support up front, which they did have, and it still didn't stop the tabloids having a field day.

Why does everyone say "it was either him or Sheila"?   Why do you say that?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why does everyone say "it was either him or Sheila"?   Why do you say that?

Because it is self-evident.