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Offline John

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #225 on: June 06, 2014, 05:57:46 AM »
It's like most events in this case, surreal bordering on the bizarre.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #226 on: June 06, 2014, 07:30:07 AM »
I don't hold with the woke and wandered theory since children of that age are not in the habit of closing doors and gates behind them.  Had she gone out the front door it would have been found open.  That aside, the discovery of an open window and raised shutter would seem to rule the woke and wandered theory unlikely.

I agree with you John...that leaves parental involvement or abduction as the only two reasonable possibilities.So either the parents did it or she was abducted,,,SY have looked at the parents and realised abduction is the only possibility...imo

stephen25000

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Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #227 on: June 06, 2014, 07:36:27 AM »
I agree with you John...that leaves parental involvement or abduction as the only two reasonable possibilities.So either the parents did it or she was abducted,,,SY have looked at the parents and realised abduction is the only possibility...imo

Who said parental involvement ?

The basic hypothesis is that Madeleine suffered an accident from which she didn't recover.

Silkywhiskers

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Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #228 on: June 06, 2014, 07:38:53 AM »
The word "murder" has been used about four times too many, for me to think this was an accident.


Offline Carana

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #229 on: June 06, 2014, 09:45:53 AM »
Madeleine McCann parents encouraged by progress made by police in Portugal
Kate and Gerry McCann break silence to urge people to 'refrain from spreading rumours'

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    Josh Halliday in Praia da Luz
    The Guardian, Thursday 5 June 2014 22.39 BST   

Kate (L) and Gerry McCann (R)
Kate and Gerry McCann holding an age-progressed police image of their daughter Madeleine in 2012. Photograph: Facundo Arrizabalaga/EPA

The parents of Madeleine McCann have said they are "encouraged" by the progress made by detectives searching scrubland near the Portuguese holiday resort where the girl went missing seven years ago.

Kate and Gerry McCann, who have not travelled to Portugal, urged people to "refrain from spreading rumours" as they broke their silence on the latest police operation.

As detectives began searching the underground sewerage network in Praia da Luz, the McCanns responded on Facebook.

"We would like to ask people to refrain from spreading rumours and speculation based on inaccurate press reporting," they wrote.

"We are kept updated on the ongoing work in Portugal and are encouraged by the progress.

"Thank you for continuing to stand by us and supporting our efforts to get Madeleine home."

Madeleine McCann went missing in May 2007, aged three.

An administrator for the Official Find Madeleine Facebook page later said the girl's parents, from Rothley in Leicestershire, had been asked not to visit Praia da Luz while the search is under way.

A post on the page said: "To those commenting on why Gerry and Kate are not in Portugal, it's because they were asked to not go there. Please let the police do their job.

"And anyone posting their sanctimonious comments about leaving children alone will be banned. No questions asked. We've heard it all before. ENOUGH with the judging."


The McCanns' statement came at the end of the a fifth day of searches in a six-hectare (15-acre) spread of dense scrubland, where officers on Thursday prised open manholes and inspected sewer pipes using micro cameras and fibre optic cables.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/05/madeleine-mcann-parents-encouraged-by-progress

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #230 on: June 06, 2014, 09:48:22 AM »
Madeleine McCann parents encouraged by progress made by police in Portugal
Kate and Gerry McCann break silence to urge people to 'refrain from spreading rumours'

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    Josh Halliday in Praia da Luz
    The Guardian, Thursday 5 June 2014 22.39 BST   

Kate (L) and Gerry McCann (R)
Kate and Gerry McCann holding an age-progressed police image of their daughter Madeleine in 2012. Photograph: Facundo Arrizabalaga/EPA

The parents of Madeleine McCann have said they are "encouraged" by the progress made by detectives searching scrubland near the Portuguese holiday resort where the girl went missing seven years ago.

Kate and Gerry McCann, who have not travelled to Portugal, urged people to "refrain from spreading rumours" as they broke their silence on the latest police operation.

As detectives began searching the underground sewerage network in Praia da Luz, the McCanns responded on Facebook.

"We would like to ask people to refrain from spreading rumours and speculation based on inaccurate press reporting," they wrote.

"We are kept updated on the ongoing work in Portugal and are encouraged by the progress.

"Thank you for continuing to stand by us and supporting our efforts to get Madeleine home."

Madeleine McCann went missing in May 2007, aged three.

An administrator for the Official Find Madeleine Facebook page later said the girl's parents, from Rothley in Leicestershire, had been asked not to visit Praia da Luz while the search is under way.

A post on the page said: "To those commenting on why Gerry and Kate are not in Portugal, it's because they were asked to not go there. Please let the police do their job.

"And anyone posting their sanctimonious comments about leaving children alone will be banned. No questions asked. We've heard it all before. ENOUGH with the judging."


The McCanns' statement came at the end of the a fifth day of searches in a six-hectare (15-acre) spread of dense scrubland, where officers on Thursday prised open manholes and inspected sewer pipes using micro cameras and fibre optic cables.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/05/madeleine-mcann-parents-encouraged-by-progress


"And anyone posting their sanctimonious comments about leaving children alone will be banned. No questions asked. We've heard it all before. ENOUGH with the judging."


It really was some seriously shit parenting though wasn't it.

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Cariad

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Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #231 on: June 06, 2014, 10:24:30 AM »
If not them then a member of their family perhaps? I dont know i find it odd, even my husband who doesnt care a hoot about any of this said he would have gone to PDL.

I mean the assumption is SY and PJ are looking for her body. They are not digging for treasure. What happened if they found her say 2 days ago?

No sorry on this one, I think i would have wanted to be there just in case. It was only for 7 days originally. There are 2 in the relationship so GM could have attended.

I believe on occasions mrs mcann is going around touring though isnt she with her new job as child protector or whatever she is so surely must have left the twins on occasions with nanny or someone else.

Nope i am not going to apologise for thinking this, but i would want to be there just in case they found something.

I would want to be there at the end. Its the catholic in me. I would want to be close to my daughter if they found her body if there was a remote chance they would find her body.

Everyone is saying the SY and PJ must have some reason to be digging perhaps intelligence etc, so we have to assume the exercise is not for SY to have 2 weeks in PDL and have a jolly but to seriously find her body.

 8(8-))

I see your point. I've just read the rest of the thread and see that the Mccanns were asked not to attend PDL during the dig, so the decision was taken out of their hands.

That was probably a kindness.

Cariad

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Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #232 on: June 06, 2014, 11:04:51 AM »
Hi Cariad, is it known who supposedly asked them not to attend ?

I'm assuming that it was SY. There doesn't seem to be anything other than their own statement to go by though.


Offline Benice

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #233 on: June 06, 2014, 11:19:04 AM »
I see your point. I've just read the rest of the thread and see that the Mccanns were asked not to attend PDL during the dig, so the decision was taken out of their hands.

That was probably a kindness.

It was also probably to make sure there wasn't a media frenzy - which would have happened if the McCanns had been there .   Having asked for press restraint it would have been counter-productive for them to actively give the press an excuse to do the opposite.

They can be there in 3/4 hours anyway if required.



The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline VIXTE

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #234 on: June 06, 2014, 11:24:41 AM »
Looking at the photos in PDL makes me proud of the Met. Hard working! High standard! Well done to these guys.. and thanks for showing to the world what the proper policing looks like..
I feel sad Madeleine did not get a chance of these policemen 7 years ago.

Her poor parents deserve to know what happened to their daughter despite all obstacles..

Offline Benice

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #235 on: June 06, 2014, 11:26:08 AM »
Now that would be quite self-serving wouldn't it, so no reference as to who requested they stay away other than their own statement, very interesting indeed !

I detect another stick to beat the McCanns with being fashioned as we speak. 

The were asked not to go.    Get over it.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline colombosstogey

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #236 on: June 06, 2014, 12:36:09 PM »

"We are kept updated on the ongoing work in Portugal and are encouraged by the progress.


 8-)(--)

What progress.

It would appear they are simply digging up scrubland because some British women reckoned she saw a drug trafficker (portugese) carrying a child towards the waste land. She rang CW.

I mean really.

Give me a break.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/phone-calls-frame-maddie-kidnappers.html

So she saw someone with a dead child, and the bloke forgot to bring his shovel and spade and oh yeh pnumatic drill and must have gone running back the other way still carrying said dead body.

This is worse script then a carry on film.....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #237 on: June 06, 2014, 12:38:00 PM »
8-)(--)

What progress.

It would appear they are simply digging up scrubland because some British women reckoned she saw a drug trafficker (portugese) carrying a child towards the waste land. She rang CW.

I mean really.

Give me a break.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/phone-calls-frame-maddie-kidnappers.html

So she saw someone with a dead child, and the bloke forgot to bring his shovel and spade and oh yeh pnumatic drill and must have gone running back the other way still carrying said dead body.

This is worse script then a carry on film.....

 @)(++(* Well the press will believe it.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

icabodcrane

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Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #238 on: June 06, 2014, 01:01:47 PM »
Still no source provided for the person / organisation who requested the McCann's stay away from PdL during the search !
Apart from the McCann's themselves through their released statement, interesting !

Could it have been their lawyers, perhaps  ? 

Offline misty

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #239 on: June 06, 2014, 02:11:00 PM »
I don't wish to speculate Icabod, suffice if to say, the McCann's have spoken ergo it must be true !
It kind of smacks of cult worship !

If they'd shown their faces there, especially with all the media presence, what do you think the PJ would have done? They'd have halted proceedings, wouldn't they, & then you'd be accusing the parents of "ignoring advice" not requesting  the identity of the body which gave the advice.