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Offline Victoria

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #270 on: June 10, 2014, 07:07:08 PM »
Sounds as though Amaral has finally lost it. Making up stuff about UK law, paranoia about MI5... Wow. Maybe the pressure is getting to him.  @)(++(*

Offline Truth

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #271 on: June 10, 2014, 11:26:05 PM »
Sounds as though Amaral has finally lost it. Making up stuff about UK law, paranoia about MI5... Wow. Maybe the pressure is getting to him.  @)(++(*

how can u say this when scotland yard are digging pdl?

Offline pegasus

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #272 on: June 11, 2014, 10:11:14 PM »
On this 2007 map, the land/buildings marked "Priority Search Area, close to dog kennels" corresponds exactly to land/buildings just searched by SY.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/daniekrugelmap.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2654890/Police-Madeleine-McCann-search-begin-combing-new-patch-scrubland-today-near-went-missing-seven-years-ago.html

There is a possibility JIMO, that SY may also in future select for search the other (southern) area, marked on that 2007 map as "Priority Search Area (blanket area)", which is directly overlooked by the monument.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 10:19:23 PM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #273 on: June 11, 2014, 10:28:59 PM »
Sounds as though Amaral has finally lost it. ... paranoia about MI5... Wow.
I do not see why Mr Amaral would lie about this.
Anyway is it not obvious that MI5  or whatever agency would certainly have some interest in the case?
For example to see if they could offer any help.
Are you proposing they had no interest at all?
It would make sense for them to talk to a top person involved in running the UK 2007 searches with Eddie (like maybe MH? or SP? or who do you think IYO?) Makes sense to me. I think Mr Amaral is telling the truth.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 10:34:04 PM by pegasus »

Offline VIXTE

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #274 on: June 12, 2014, 12:52:12 AM »
I do not see why Mr Amaral would lie about this.
Anyway is it not obvious that MI5  or whatever agency would certainly have some interest in the case?
For example to see if they could offer any help.
Are you proposing they had no interest at all?
It would make sense for them to talk to a top person involved in running the UK 2007 searches with Eddie (like maybe MH? or SP? or who do you think IYO?) Makes sense to me. I think Mr Amaral is telling the truth.

Why would Mi5 have interest in this case? Or better to say why would they have interest in influencing it?
IMO this is a pure speculation a conspiracy theory.. telling more about Amaral than anything else.. I bet Amaral visits Ickes forum  @)(++(*
Next time he's going to be saying it was the alien influence  @)(++(*

Offline Brietta

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #275 on: June 12, 2014, 01:27:11 AM »
I think there was a bit of consensus on the forum that things were being done cart before horse.

Perhaps that is not the case, perhaps it has always been the intention to search for remains in the first instance as an elimination process.

The statement from the Met makes it plain there are other lines of enquiry which it will take some time to work through.

So there does not seem to be a closed mind set to the possibility of a living Madeleine still capable of being found.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #276 on: June 12, 2014, 08:43:25 AM »
I think there was a bit of consensus on the forum that things were being done cart before horse.

Perhaps that is not the case, perhaps it has always been the intention to search for remains in the first instance as an elimination process.

The statement from the Met makes it plain there are other lines of enquiry which it will take some time to work through.

So there does not seem to be a closed mind set to the possibility of a living Madeleine still capable of being found.

Not finding something does not eliminate the possibility of it existing - in a place that hasn't been searched.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #277 on: June 12, 2014, 09:34:36 AM »
Not finding something does not eliminate the possibility of it existing - in a place that hasn't been searched.

The chances would be small, they checked all the places where the land has been disturbed..

Offline jassi

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #278 on: June 12, 2014, 10:40:56 AM »
The chances would be small, they checked all the places where the land has been disturbed..

And the rest of the Algarve ?  All it means is they haven't found whatever they are looking for (as far as we know), where they have searched, not that it doesn't exist
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #279 on: June 12, 2014, 10:42:32 AM »
And the rest of the Algarve ?  All it means is they haven't found whatever they are looking for (as far as we know), where they have searched, not that it doesn't exist

They haven't excavated the landfill, so she is still there waiting to be exhumed, until proven otherwise IMO.
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Offline VIXTE

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #280 on: June 12, 2014, 01:13:33 PM »
And the rest of the Algarve ?  All it means is they haven't found whatever they are looking for (as far as we know), where they have searched, not that it doesn't exist

Don't you understand that they are following the phone data?

If anyone whose phone was near 5A left PDL they would know that. They would also know where ( in Algarve) this person was!

It has been reported widely that the current searches have to do with phone data findings. So they know whoever was in PDL that night the person was in PDL the following days too..

The scrubland was searched because the phones near 5A also were near the scrubland(s) and they are checking these places.

Offline jassi

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #281 on: June 12, 2014, 01:20:18 PM »
Don't you understand that they are following the phone data?

If anyone whose phone was near 5A left PDL they would know that. They would also know where ( in Algarve) this person was!

It has been reported widely that the current searches have to do with phone data findings. So they know whoever was in PDL that night the person was in PDL the following days too..

The scrubland was searched because the phones near 5A also were near the scrubland(s) and they are checking these places.

No I don't.
There is nothing to connect phone data with any suggestion of burial of Madeleine in PDL or elsewhere.
If Madeleine was buried somewhere, there is no reason to think that the person doing the buying  was carrying a mobile phone at the time.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #282 on: June 12, 2014, 01:26:59 PM »
No I don't.
There is nothing to connect phone data with any suggestion of burial of Madeleine in PDL or elsewhere.
If Madeleine was buried somewhere, there is no reason to think that the person doing the buying  was carrying a mobile phone at the time.

It seems SY think the phone data is important and it makes a lot of sense

Offline VIXTE

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #283 on: June 12, 2014, 01:27:31 PM »
No I don't.
There is nothing to connect phone data with any suggestion of burial of Madeleine in PDL or elsewhere.
If Madeleine was buried somewhere, there is no reason to think that the person doing the buying  was carrying a mobile phone at the time.

Well, they said their searches are results of phone data analysis.


Offline jassi

Re: British police commence ground searches and digs in Praia da Luz.
« Reply #284 on: June 12, 2014, 01:28:37 PM »
Well, they said their searches are results of phone data analysis.

They might have done, but it doesn't mean they were correct in their assumptions.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future