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Madeleine McCann search: Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.

The two English spaniels, named Tito and Muzzy, are victim detection dogs who were also used in the search for murdered schoolgirl April Jones.



South Wales Police sniffer dog Muzzy searching scrubland in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

Sniffer dogs are being used to search an area of scrubland close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared in Portugal seven years ago.

British officers, accompanied by their Portuguese counterparts, are spending a second day investigating the hilly area in the resort of Praia da Luz on the Algarve, in an unprecedented operation initiated by Scotland Yard.

Two sniffer dogs joined British police for around five minutes on a flat area of the scrubland, at the bottom of a slope.

The two English spaniels, named Tito and Muzzy, were then taken away out of sight while around 10 officers stood around in discussion.

They were then brought out again and spent a few minutes in the long grass as their handlers looked on.

South Wales Police confirmed that two specialist dog handlers and victim detection dogs were helping with the investigation.

The dogs were also used during the search for murdered schoolgirl April Jones in 2012, the force said.

Victim detection dogs can be used for finding hidden bodies as well as searching for people in disasters, and can be used in a variety of locations, including buildings, open areas and vehicles.



WPC Sally Richards and Tito search scrubland on the outskirts of Praia da Luz.

Specialist police teams are thought to be using ground-penetrating radar equipment to probe the search area, looking for disturbed earth.

The large section of land is being guarded day and night by armed local police with dogs, and a large yellow-and-white cordon was put in place ahead of the search for clues about Madeleine, who disappeared in May 2007 when she was just three-years-old.

The land, a few minutes' walk from the Ocean Club resort apartment where Madeleine was staying with her family, has been searched before.

A number of small tents have been erected inside the cordon, thought to be where officers are concentrating their efforts.

Around six Portuguese police vans could be seen on top of a large mound in the middle of the scrubland, which overlooks the sea.

The cordon was lowered down for two hired vans to drive in and they then reversed along a track before stopping near two blue tents.

TV crews and journalists from around the world were gathered at the cordon as the search takes place.

A British officer in plain clothes spent time studying a flat area which had been marked with tape.

He put gloves on before using a tool to make holes in the ground.

A small yellow flag could already be seen poking out within the taped section.

Local police officers on horseback patrolled the area while others had German shepherd dogs.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-search-sniffer-dogs-3640157

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« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 10:42:59 PM by John »

Opposing Pat

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Scotland Yard call in victim detection dogs, seems like groundhog day !
So who will be first to discredit Tito & Muzzy ?

« Last Edit: March 07, 2015, 10:37:30 PM by John »

Alfred R Jones

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Oh go on then, might as well be me.  Tito and Muzzy - what daft names!

Offline Eleanor

It isn't a question of discrediting.  It's what they do or don't find, and how this and they are presented by their handlers.
But I don't expect to see any self promoting videos.

Offline Eleanor

Oh go on then, might as well be me.  Tito and Muzzy - what daft names!

I call my dog "Come On Then" which is much more interesting. IMO.

Offline pegasus

I am assuming both Welsh dogs are cadaver dogs?

Silkywhiskers

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Do we really need another thread disparaging the dogs?

Really?

They are not in any sort of "race" against each other, so why compare?

Offline sadie

Nothing disparaging in the thread, I'm just looking forward to the 'logical' debate regarding the differing viewpoints of the Eddie & Keela detractors and their 'spin' on the deployment (on SY's insistence) of Tito & Muzzy !
What Eddie and Keela detractors?  I dont see any. 


Rather i see people who just cant, or refuse to, understand the limitations of what their alerts actually mean and dont mean


Nothing wrong with the dogs per se.

Silkywhiskers

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What Eddie and Keela detractors?  I dont see any. 


Rather i see people who just cant, or refuse to, understand the limitations of what their alerts actually mean and dont mean


Nothing wrong with the dogs per se.

Well let's see

Their ALERTS this week in PDL have "meant" that two police forces (and their dogs, equipment, helicopters, military staff, GNR etc)  have converged on a tiny scrap of land 1000m from the front door of 5a, and are now digging a small hole right in the middle of the side that lies furthest from the OC.



 

Offline VIXTE

Scotland Yard call in victim detection dogs, seems like groundhog day !
So who will be first to discredit Tito & Muzzy ?

Dogs cannot be discredited. They are just markers.
It is what they find that is important. Actually the chemistry of what they find..


Offline VIXTE

Re: Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2014, 12:51:00 AM »
And neither do they lie, would you agree ?

I don't agree or disagree.
The dogs are used as useful markers and the idea is to use dogs to find the either alive person or a human body. Or parts of the body.
or like in case of Keala and Eddie human blood.
That later gets analised to figure out to whom this blood belongs..
That is the whole story of the dogs..

Offline VIXTE

Re: Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2014, 01:06:16 AM »
A rather unfortunate Freudian slip, I think you meant analysed as opposed to analised !
EVRD dogs are tasked with a specific skill set, no amount of cuing will detract an EVRD from carrying out his/her duties !

Dogs are tools. Most useful if they find dead bodies or blood..i.e the physical evidence that can be analysed a lab and possibly identified.
If no identification or no physical evidence then the dogs are useless.

Offline pegasus

Re: Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2014, 01:10:58 AM »
A rather unfortunate Freudian slip, I think you meant analysed as opposed to analised !
EVRD dogs are tasked with a specific skill set, no amount of cuing will detract an EVRD from carrying out their duties !
Some peeps would claim that litmus paper was cued by its handler if they didn't like the colour it turned.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 01:13:13 AM by pegasus »

Offline sadie

Re: Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 01:12:47 AM »
Some peeps would claim that litmus paper was cued by its handler if they didn't like the colour it turned.
Pegasus.  You have to agree that Eddie was repeatedly cued to the Mccann hire car.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 01:15:45 AM »
The dogs will rarely highlight "physical evidence", their task is to point to possible locations where "physical evidence" may be located !

A drop of blood is a physical evidence and this is what they most commonly find.