Madeleine McCann. Sniffer dogs brought in to help with scrubland dig.

[pathfinder73]

grime mentions cross contamination as a reason for the alerts..it cant be ignored

What are you going on about? They hadn't been in the church until after they'd moved out of 5A.

[Mr Gray]

Neither can be the distinct possibility the dogs got it right in the apartment, and of course they didn't signal in any other one.

The dogs no not confirm the death of maddie..that is an absolute fact

[stephen25000]

The dogs no not confirm the death of maddie..that is an absolute fact

They don't dismiss it either.

.........and I know what I would lay a bet on.

[Mr Gray]

They don't dismiss it either.

.........and I know what I would lay a bet on.

of course they don't..maddie may still be alive

[slartibartfast]

Doesn't have to...the people who put the body in the casket touch the lid and the outside of the casket...grime says contamination is immediate

grime talks about the alerts being the result of contamination...this is one possibility

No, the body is put in the coffin and the lid put on later. Hygiene is very important in the business and gloves and disinfectant liquids is the order of the day.

[Benice]

You've asked the question, do you have the answer ? Also are you trying to imply that Fr.Pacheco was in 'direct' contact with corpses ?

Wasn't that one of the different culture misunderstandings which worked against the McCanns i.e. the Portuguese only ask for a priest if a death has occurred?

[pegasus]

Eddie was deliberately led to RM's house and garden, directed 100s of times by handler over two days, zero alerts.

[misty]

Which proves conclusively that the dogs could not be cued !

Have you seen the evidence of that on the DVD then, because I haven't.

[pegasus]

Have you seen the evidence of that on the DVD then, because I haven't.

Evidence not on the DVD:
1. video footage of Eddie in 5B
2. video footage of Eddie in 5D
3. video footage of Eddie in 5H 
4. video footage of Eddie in 4G
In all four examples:
(A) The dog has been deliberately led there
(B) The handler knows it is an apartment of interest
(C) The handler repeatedly points out to the dog where to sniff
(D) The handler sometimes calls the dog back to certain areas
Total alerts by Eddie in those 4 apartments = 0, IRMC

[Alfred R Jones]

Which proves conclusively that the dogs could not be cued !

No it doesn't, it proves nothing. 

[Mr Gray]

My opinion is that the dogs were cued...and it was the correct thing to do

[Brietta]

Evidence of what specifically ?

Quote from: pegasus on June 18, 2014, 07:39:54 PM
Eddie was deliberately led to RM's house and garden, directed 100s of times by handler over two days, zero alerts.

I think Misty was referring to the above quote from Pegasus.
We are familiar with Eddie in Apartment 5A - in the sports centre - in the flat with CC - and in the garage.

I have never seen a video of Eddie in the Murat residence or garden.
I don't think Misty has either.
Have you? Has Pegasus? Has anyone?

If it exists may we be provided with a link.

[Mr Gray]

Cued to do what exactly?

brought back to what grime thought were important sites to check again and again

[stephen25000]

brought back to what grime thought were important sites to check again and again

In your view, and you are no dog handler.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I do believe the dogs did the job they were asked to do: find traces of cadaver scent or blood.

 Unfortunately, there was no overwhelming evidence that the blood belonged to little Maddie.
But kate did offer an explanation-when she thought it may be over whelming evidence by saying Maddie has a nose bleed? ( I am not sure where I read that, sorry I can't offer a direct quote, and apologies if I have picked that up wrong)

The cadaver on kate's clothes and her explanation is quite something. Also, finding cadaver scent in a cupboard? if someone had died in that bedroom-say an elderly person a few weeks previously then, that would be an acceptable reason for alerting cadaver scent by the dog-but in a cupboard? Hm