Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.

[Alfred R Jones]

Then they are almost certainly on a hiding to nothing as regards a satisfactory conclusion as they can never bring him to trial - assuming that he was guilty, of course.

The police don't stop trying to solve a crime just because the main suspect is dead, nor should they stop trying to find the child, alive or dead.

[jassi]

The police don't stop trying to solve a crime just because the main suspect is dead, nor should they stop trying to find the child, alive or dead.

Did I suggest they should?

[pathfinder73]

The police don't stop trying to solve a crime just because the main suspect is dead, nor should they stop trying to find the child, alive or dead.

Smithman ain't dead. He alive and kicking at cops very soon. They are interviewing drug dealers on the street now to see if he was seen that night.

[VIXTE]

There's no denying that.

Do you envisge her living with a paedophile, or have you some other fantasy?

Fantasy? I wouldn't make conclusions. There is no proof she is dead, therefore she might as well be alive.

[jassi]

Fantasy? I wouldn't make conclusions. There is no proof she is dead, therefore she might as well be alive.

Would you care to hazard an opinion regarding her likely  circumstances?

[VIXTE]

Would you care to hazard an opinion regarding her likely  circumstances?

What I am trying to say is that in this case ( and in any other) you cannot make firm conclusions.
I tend to trust physical evidence more than any 'theory'.
There is no proof anyone died in that apartment.
She might have recognised the intruder who might have had been working there and performing a role of a good law abiding citizen. She even might have been taken for order by telling a drug user 'give us a child, we give you drugs'.. or if she accidentally died in that apartment IMO it is impossible that the cadaver scent was developed there.
The police has to work by eliminating and this is exactly what they do.. So one week we hear it is the ex OC workers. the other week we hear other news, IMO this is just the police working on certain clues and eliminating them.
What they definitely have are the phone records. So they might have a handful of people in mind who happen to match the phone masts areas.
If any of them left the area the day after this would be the most alarming. Like this tractorman who was reportedly signed off work in the following days.. this is why they suspect him.. etc etc..

[stephen25000]

What I am trying to say is that in this case ( and in any other) you cannot make firm conclusions.
I tend to trust physical evidence more than any 'theory'.
There is no proof anyone died in that apartment.
She might have recognised the intruder who might have had been working there and performing a role of a good law abiding citizen. She even might have been taken for order by telling a drug user 'give us a child, we give you drugs'.. or if she accidentally died in that apartment IMO it is impossible that the cadaver scent was developed there.
The police has to work by eliminating and this is exactly what they do.. So one week we hear it is the ex OC workers. the other week we hear other news, IMO this is just the police working on certain clues and eliminating them.
What they definitely have are the phone records. So they might have a handful of people in mind who happen to match the phone masts areas.
If any of them left the area the day after this would be the most alarming. Like this tractorman who was reportedly signed off work in the following day.. this is why they suspect him.. etc etc..

That's all speculation and no more.

[jassi]

What I am trying to say is that in this case ( and in any other) you cannot make firm conclusions.
I tend to trust physical evidence more than any 'theory'.
There is no proof anyone died in that apartment.
She might have recognised the intruder who might have had been working there and performing a role of a good law abiding citizen. She even might have been taken for order by telling a drug user 'give us a child, we give you drugs'.. or if she accidentally died in that apartment IMO it is impossible that the cadaver scent was developed there.
The police has to work by eliminating and this is exactly what they do.. So one week we hear it is the ex OC workers. the other week we hear other news, IMO this is just the police working on certain clues and eliminating them.
What they definitely have are the phone records. So they might have a handful of people in mind who happen to match the phone masts areas.
If any of them left the area the day after this would be the most alarming. Like this tractorman who was reportedly signed off work in the following days.. this is why they suspect him.. etc etc..

So, you think she is still alive, but are unwilling to consider what sort of existence she may be living.  OK.

[Martina]

What I am trying to say is that in this case ( and in any other) you cannot make firm conclusions.
I tend to trust physical evidence more than any 'theory'.
There is no proof anyone died in that apartment.
She might have recognised the intruder who might have had been working there and performing a role of a good law abiding citizen.

And was dumb enough to try and burgle the apartment without checking first if it was empty. What should be easy peasy for him if he worked in the Ocean Club.

She even might have been taken for order by telling a drug user 'give us a child, we give you drugs'

Drug addicts are not the most reliable workers and they are not known from being exceptionally secretive and non-talkative, so again, a very dumb paedophile at work.  And It's hard to imagine anyone high or craving , who manages to steal a child from a darkened apartment, leaving totally no trace.

[Alfred R Jones]

Did I suggest they should?

No, you seemed to intimate that because the protagonist may be dead that there could be no satisfactory outcome, hence the police are wasting their time.  If I misunderstood your meaning I stand corrected and apologise most profusely.

[VIXTE]

^^^^^^^

This would be dismissing the possibilities before checking them up.. This is exactly what happened a lot in this case and IMO this is why this case hasn't been solved.
Metodically checking up everything bit by bit is what is needed.

The have the phone data.. they know who was there..

[Alfred R Jones]

Well why don't you give a large voluntary donation to the search ?

What?  You really are fond of the non-sequitur aren't you?

[jassi]

^^^^^^^

This would be dismissing the possibilities before checking them up.. This is exactly what happened a lot in this case and IMO this is why this case hasn't been solved.
Metodically checking up everything bit by bit is what is needed.

The have the phone data.. they know who was there..

They know which phones numbers were in and around PDL, but not necessarily identities, nor positions, with any accuracy.

[VIXTE]

They know which phones numbers were in and around PDL, but not necessarily identities, nor positions, with any accuracy.

I think they have more sophisticated data analysing methods.

For example it is possible that Smiths sighting area is covered by different mast to 5A area. If it was then bingo..

[jassi]

I think they have more sophisticated data analysing methods.

For example it is possible that Smiths sighting area is covered by different mast to 5A area. If it was then bingo..

It would all depend on how many masts there were at that time and whether the raw data is able to provide relevant information.