Scotland Yard given permission to question 8 key suspects.

[John]

They  dont need portuguese permission to question the tapas

I believe you have discovered a third significant meaning Dave...I think MM was referring to the "key".

I notice that Correio da Manhā is reporting the telephone links by these drug dealers as significant yet Amaral reported that the only significant calls made the evening Madeleine disappeared were made by Murat. Could this be a case of the PJ protecting informers... and along comes Redwood and spoils it all.

[Martina]

I believe you have discovered a third significant meaning Dave...I think MM was referring to the "key".

I notice that Correio da Manhā is reporting the telephone links by these drug dealers as significant yet Amaral reported that the only significant calls made the evening Madeleine disappeared were made by Murat. Could this be a case of the PJ protecting informers... and along comes Redwood and spoils it all.

I'm surprised nobody noticed this little tidbit at the end of the article translated by Joana Morais:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/dogs-geo-radar-and-probes-used-to.html

The PJ, meanwhile, has discarded Euclides Monteiro as primary suspect, and believes now, that the man who may have taken Madeleine, was a foreigner that has committed an isolated crime, at a time when he was spending his holidays in Portugal.

So either the PJ believes that Maddie was simultaneously abducted by the eight local lowlives and by the foreign holidaymaker or...

Or their real suspect is said holidaymaker and the eight locals are just the persons of interest with potentially important knowledge.

[pegasus]

I'm surprised nobody noticed this little tidbit at the end of the article translated by Joana Morais:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/dogs-geo-radar-and-probes-used-to.html

The PJ, meanwhile, has discarded Euclides Monteiro as primary suspect, and believes now, that the man who may have taken Madeleine, was a foreigner that has committed an isolated crime, at a time when he was spending his holidays in Portugal.

Thankyou, I had missed that, and it is good of you to point it out.

[Pzi]

I notice that Correio da Manhā is reporting the telephone links by these drug dealers as significant yet Amaral reported that the only significant calls made the evening Madeleine disappeared were made by Murat. Could this be a case of the PJ protecting informers... and along comes Redwood and spoils it all.

It could simply be that SY had more data to work with than the PJ, or just decided to broaden their search when it came to the cellphone activity in the area.

I'm surprised nobody noticed this little tidbit at the end of the article translated by Joana Morais:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/dogs-geo-radar-and-probes-used-to.html

The PJ, meanwhile, has discarded Euclides Monteiro as primary suspect, and believes now, that the man who may have taken Madeleine, was a foreigner that has committed an isolated crime, at a time when he was spending his holidays in Portugal.

So either the PJ believes that Maddie was simultaneously abducted by the eight local lowlives and by the foreign holidaymaker or...

Or their real suspect is said holidaymaker and the eight locals are just the persons of interest with potentially important knowledge.

The interpretation that I made of that information is that the PJ is only interviewing/questioning those eight local "lowlifes" because of the SY investigation and their request. The fact that it came out that the PJ "believes now, that the man who may have taken Madeleine, was a foreigner that has committed an isolated crime, at a time when he was spending his holidays in Portugal," shows how the investigations of the two police forces are heading in different directions.

Also, we can't be sure that SY believes completely that those three/eight people are responsible for Madeline McCain's disappearance or if they are just questioning them as possible witnesses.

Cheers,

[John]

From what I have read recently in both the British Press and the Portuguese Press the PJ and SY are not only not on the same page but are not even on the same book.

[Carana]

I'm surprised nobody noticed this little tidbit at the end of the article translated by Joana Morais:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/dogs-geo-radar-and-probes-used-to.html

The PJ, meanwhile, has discarded Euclides Monteiro as primary suspect, and believes now, that the man who may have taken Madeleine, was a foreigner that has committed an isolated crime, at a time when he was spending his holidays in Portugal.

So either the PJ believes that Maddie was simultaneously abducted by the eight local lowlives and by the foreign holidaymaker or...

Or their real suspect is said holidaymaker and the eight locals are just the persons of interest with potentially important knowledge.

A holidaymaker could indeed be involved, but I don't see how the PJ has come to that conclusion if they haven't yet interviewed the eight POIs. Is this an official stance, or some cop thinking out loud again? 

I'm not aware that they have ruled out a possible connection with whoever assaulted the children in those other cases.

[Brietta]

I think they are working to specific information and they are tying up all the loose ends in the process.

Snip from Mail article
Search for Madeleine McCann to move to new site around water treatment plant linked to suspect
Officers due to start scouring area near Praia da Luz resort on Wednesday

Police will focus on area by a small water sub-station, farmhouse and well
Heroin addict Euclides Monteiro working at water and sewage plant in Lagos
It was four miles from Ocean Club where Madeleine was staying with parents
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651846/Search-Madeleine-McCann-new-site-hard-water-treatment-plant-linked-suspect.html#ixzz341zRQG9z

[stephen25000]

Suspects ???

or should it say, persons of interest ?

[Carana]

Suspects ???

or should it say, persons of interest ?

Personally I prefer persons of interest as it's a more neutral term for arguido.

Police also confirmed all the suspects still live in Portugal and that interviews would take place at either of the two Algarve police stations, Faro or Portimão, conducted by Portuguese detectives with their British counterparts allowed to sit in but not intervene.

Those police want to talk to will be immediately constituted as arguidos, a Portuguese term for someone who is a suspect, which garnered infamy when Madeline's parents, along with a British expatriate called Robert Murat, were given the status by Portuguese authorities. All three were cleared by a prosecutor in 2008.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/07/madeleine-mccann-suspects-questioned-police

[Eleanor]

So, The McCanns were Suspects, but these 8 people will just be Persons of Interest.  Funny how the goal posts change.

[Brietta]

Well The Grauniad and Smellygraph seem to be at their customary churnalism trick of retreading what The Mirror print on this topic. If there were a crime it was committed on Portuguese soil so one could argue that the only view that counts is that of the Portuguese judiciary.
It is nonetheless baffling that there can be so many permutations.

I don’t find it at all baffling that there are so many permutations. 

Then I have never gone with the absolute that it was the parents wot dunnit, preferring instead that all avenues are investigated.
As perhaps the most investigated couple in history with their every action and statement subject to endless conjecture and speculation, I think it is time attention was directed to those who were in the area at the time who apparently have records for entering holiday makers homes for nefarious purpose.  ie the 'suspects' who will be questioned when this phase has been concluded.

[stephen25000]

So, The McCanns were Suspects, but these 8 people will just be Persons of Interest.  Funny how the goal posts change.

There is no proven link between these people and the case.

That isn't true of the mccanns.

[Carana]

There is no proven link between these people and the case.

That isn't true of the mccanns.

Care to share?

[icabodcrane]

I think they are working to specific information and they are tying up all the loose ends in the process.

Snip from Mail article
Search for Madeleine McCann to move to new site around water treatment plant linked to suspect
Officers due to start scouring area near Praia da Luz resort on Wednesday

Police will focus on area by a small water sub-station, farmhouse and well
Heroin addict Euclides Monteiro working at water and sewage plant in Lagos
It was four miles from Ocean Club where Madeleine was staying with parents
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651846/Search-Madeleine-McCann-new-site-hard-water-treatment-plant-linked-suspect.html#ixzz341zRQG9z

Can it really be the case that all these  digs   are centred on the,  conveniently  dead,  black man  ?

They're not actually trying to pin it on him are they  ? 

[jassi]

I'm sure they will do their best, but a dead man won't do.
Without a conviction there will never be a true resolution.