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Offline Victoria

Interesting. Portuguese press are reporting today that the reason the scrubland is being searched is because a british woman saw a man walking there with a child in his arms on the night in question, and the identity of the man in question appears to be known to them (he's Portuguese and has a record).
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2014, 10:04:38 AM »
Interesting. Portuguese press are reporting today that the reason the scrubland is being searched is because a british woman saw a man walking there with a child in his arms on the night in question, and the identity of the man in question appears to be known to them (he's Portuguese and has a record).

Amazing isn't it, that this witness has waited 7 years before telling anyone.
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Offline Victoria

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 10:09:34 AM »
Amazing isn't it, that this witness has waited 7 years before telling anyone.

Bit of an assumption on your part there, old chum.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2014, 10:11:10 AM »
Bit of an assumption on your part there, old chum.

Is there any mention of this witness in the files?  No there aint.

I wonder if she produced an e-fit, maybe we'll find out in 2019.
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Offline Victoria

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2014, 10:13:42 AM »
Is there any mention of this witness in the files?  No there aint.

Doesn't mean she didn't come forward at the time. Certainly doesn't mean it took her seven years. At this stage, we simply don't know. But if the Portuguese newspaper is right and this was the justification given for the scrubland search, it rather puts to bed some peoples pet theories.  @)(++(*

Offline jassi

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2014, 10:13:49 AM »
Interesting story. I wonder if there is any truth behind it?  Another of these things where time will tell.

Couldn't quite make out why drug traffickers should raid a holiday apartment and kill and remove a child - was it a revenge attack?
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Offline jassi

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2014, 10:14:43 AM »
It is even more amazing how all the witnesses are English and all the POIs speak English.
Is it PdL or Burnham on Crouch?

I did notice that - convenient, what ?
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Offline jassi

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2014, 10:15:42 AM »
Doesn't mean she didn't come forward at the time. Certainly doesn't mean it took her seven years. At this stage, we simply don't know. But if the Portuguese newspaper is right and this was the justification given for the scrubland search, it rather puts to bed some peoples pet theories@)(++(*


Not without rather more detail, it doesn't.
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Offline Victoria

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2014, 10:15:55 AM »
Interesting story. I wonder if there is any truth behind it?  Another of these things where time will tell.

Couldn't quite make out why drug traffickers should raid a holiday apartment and kill and remove a child - was it a revenge attack?

Sometimes people have more than one vice. In fact, when drugs are involved it's pretty much a certainty.

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Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2014, 10:26:19 AM »
Interesting. Portuguese press are reporting today that the reason the scrubland is being searched is because a british woman saw a man walking there with a child in his arms on the night in question, and the identity of the man in question appears to be known to them (he's Portuguese and has a record).

'and the identity of the man in question appears to be known to them (he's Portuguese and has a record).'

Appears to be known ???

Offline jassi

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 10:27:36 AM »
Hi Victoria, which media outlet is reporting this story ?

No doubt soon to be picked up by the Sun, Mirror and the Mail, who will run 4 page features on it.
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Offline Victoria

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2014, 10:40:16 AM »
Has anybody got a link to, or the name of the media outlet reporting this story ?

It's CDM.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 11:28:26 AM »
Interesting. Portuguese press are reporting today that the reason the scrubland is being searched is because a british woman saw a man walking there with a child in his arms on the night in question, and the identity of the man in question appears to be known to them (he's Portuguese and has a record).

I wish we know more about this person.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2014, 11:38:42 AM »
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Correio da Manhã

(Translated by Astro)

Maddie Case

Phone calls frame Maddie's 'abductors'

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English police says that Maddie McCann's murderers are Portuguese and involved in drug trafficking

by: Tânia Laranjo/Rui Pando Gomes

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(Paper edition)

Maddie Case

Phone calls frame Maddie's 'abductors'

English police says that Maddie McCann's murderers are Portuguese and involved in drug trafficking

by: Tânia Laranjo/Rui Pando Gomes
06.06.14

They are Portuguese and have a record of drug trafficking. The English police says they broke into the Ocean Club apartment, in Lagos, and killed Madeleine McCann, on the 3rd of May of 2007. The phonecalls that were made before and after the crime were used as evidence to sustain the searches that have been under way since Monday. Scotland Yard further asserts that there is a British witness that saw one of the men carrying a child in his arms to the empty lot that lies less than 500 metres from the resort. He ran away, the English now say, but before that he buried the little girl's body. They want to hear the three suspects, but for now there is no evidence to sustain the thesis.

"Anyone who is going to do a robbery does not walk there and doesn't abandon a body so close to the crime scene. Furthermore, there were no signs of a break-in at the apartment", said Gonçalo Amaral, the former PJ inspector who investigated the case and considers that this new theory is not credible.

This version is one of those that are in the letter rogatory that determined the searches. It's the strongest one, but the English open the door to other possibilities. Five other suspects are listed. They also have a record and they acted under the motive of theft.

Seven years after the disappearance, the English police assures the Public Ministry that the theory had a basis. The description that was made by a British tourist coincides with one of the suspecta that resides The woman saw him speaking English on the phone as he walked by with the child in his arms.in the vicinity.

He was speaking English on the phone but he is Portuguese?

So this is my theory that was laughed at in here that a burglar accidentially killed Madeleine and took away her body to hide the evidence?

Offline a.baker

Re: Witness claims to have seen a man carrying a child on the mound.
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2014, 12:04:58 PM »
Not really a credible theory though is it? So,SY believe Madeleine died in the apartment? So the dogs were correct. The 'abductor' would have had to have entered a killed her sometime between Gerry's check at 9.05 (he then spent 4 mins in apt and 6 mins talking to Jez and Matthews check at 9.30 (not very likely) OR between Mat's check at 9,30 and Kate's at just before ten. But would the latter period of time be enough for cadaver odour to develop?