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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2014, 03:49:39 PM »
The McCanns did not cooperate with the police investigation-indeed they were very reluctant to show any enthusiasm to conduct themselves in a manner which could be construed as 'helpful' even.

The mother was asked. do you know that by not answering these questions it may harm the search for your daughter.

"YES"... she answered.

She knew.  she knew it would, but she went ahead and withdrew her support to help find her daughter.
one of the last persons to see her alive-withdrew her support, her own mother.

The rest of the group, who could have help establish a time line, all gave shocking 'erring' and 'umming' statements... and they denied the police access to establish who was 'where and when' on that evening by refusing to do a reconstruction.

disgraceful behavior and yet they project all of their hatred towards a police officer.

It wouldn't get to court in this country-however  Mr Amaral would have a case against the Team Mc- to sue them and most newspapers! IMO

You do realise both Kate and Gerry answered hours of questions...amaral has no case against the mccanns in the uk...nor against any press...anything that has been printed about him is true....he is disgraced, he has acriminal record and the  original investigation was bungled....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2014, 04:05:37 PM »
Red bit: don't be obtuse when you don't have to be! The legal game of course. Look at it a giant game of cards; all parties are entitled to play their card according to the rules to their own advantage. I happens many times and is not unusual.
Purple bit. Like I said what evidence? The judge stopped taking evidence in November 2013 so what has changed since then?

im not being obtuse...so amaral is playing the legal game you think...wouldn't it be better just to trounce the mccanns if that were possible....it isn't...the evidence we have seen from the trial and from amarals behaviour..his interview with the Norwegian magazine all point to the fact that he has lost..hes down and out

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2014, 04:13:45 PM »

And there was me thinking that Court Cases are serious business.  But what Amaral did had already been predicted.  We just didn't think he would sack another Lawyer.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2014, 04:16:15 PM »
And there was me thinking that Court Cases are serious business.  But what Amaral did had already been predicted.  We just didn't think he would sack another Lawyer.

I'm really looking forward to seeing his next move...

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2014, 04:16:53 PM »
Kate refused to answer 48 questions at the police station.

Kate refused to answer 48 questions at the police station.


EXCEPT THIS ONE:

The mother was asked. do you know that by not answering these questions it may harm the search for your daughter.

"YES"... she answered.



Huh?...her mother who was leaving no stone unturned...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2014, 04:21:19 PM »
Kate refused to answer 48 questions at the police station.

Kate refused to answer 48 questions at the police station.


EXCEPT THIS ONE:

The mother was asked. do you know that by not answering these questions it may harm the search for your daughter.

"YES"... she answered.



Huh?...her mother who was leaving no stone unturned...

Precisely the point.

her beloved daughter, after all.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2014, 04:25:39 PM »

Well this case has always enjoyed grandstanding on court steps by one party or another. My belief is that both parties would have been better off not grandstanding but it's their money and their choice.
To the point of tedium what evidence. The trial had the McCann's witnesses giving anecdotal tales of hearsay and Wright reading from notes which the judge pointed out was not admissible and she could ignore it as a consequence if she so wished. Sra Duarte dropped off resulting in Mrs Healey being ineligible and Trisha Cameron was cut short by the judge and told she could go home. Dr Amaral for his part had some strange witnesses one of whom had the judge answer the question for him. The judge made it plain it was her job to compare the book with the PJ files and no one elses.
From what went on do you seriously believe it is an open and shut case in favour of the McCanns? Then IF the McCanns are successful it will be judge who decides the level of damages. I wouldn't put a brass farthing on it either way.

We have been told that much of the evidence has been submitted to the judge in private. From amarals witnesses it looks as though HE has to prove his comments are justified and supported by evidence..we know he will not be able to do this...all the evidence he believed.. the dna and the dogs has been discredited...amarals whole demeanor is one of a beaten man...you believe what you want...I think its obvious amaral has lost

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2014, 04:33:18 PM »
I'm really looking forward to seeing his next move...

Me too.  Perhaps we should have a Thread about that.  "What will Amaral do next."

I'll start it if anyone wants.

Offline Joanne

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2014, 04:48:56 PM »
It won't happen because Mr Amaral does his work in Portugal, so anything linked to a 'crime' or civil law takes place in the country where it happened e.g. English news papers print lie-sue in England, Mr A writes book in Portugal, sue in Portugal. Even in parts of this country you sue where the crime happens i.e. I get burgled by someone from London, Sheffield would be the place the investigation takes place. My brother in law got killed on the A1, It was nearest to Leeds, so that's where the coroners court took place.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2014, 06:02:32 PM »
Then why did the McCanns make a big wing ding about having the trial in open court when Dr Amaral wanted it in camera?
Basically what you are saying is Dr Amaral has lost because you say so or you would like to think so.

no Im saying amaral has lost based on what we have seen happening..perhaps Im just a lot better at assessing evidence than you and others are.....I am confident i will be proved right

Offline slartibartfast

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2014, 11:01:56 PM »
We have been told that much of the evidence has been submitted to the judge in private. From amarals witnesses it looks as though snip

...followed by Davel's suppositions.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2014, 08:53:43 AM »
We have now gone full circle. I asked you quantify the evidence and you have so far failed to do so. Bluster and blether and the world is divided in two; you and the idiots.
So where is this evidence you are so adept at assimilating?
Just state it; no bother for you surely?

I have quantified the evidence...its all there in previous posts..witness statements from trials..amarals actions...amarals interview..........posters on here are ignoring the evidence because it doesn't fit there mindset..

Why did amaral sack his lawyer...because his lawyer is doing such a great job and amaral is miles ahead in the trial...or because everything is slipping away....remember all amarals assets are frozen...if he has such a strong case why isn't he in court getting his money back..its obvious amaral is toast

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2014, 09:02:39 AM »
I have quantified the evidence...its all there in previous posts..witness statements from trials..amarals actions...amarals interview..........posters on here are ignoring the evidence because it doesn't fit there mindset..

Why did amaral sack his lawyer...because his lawyer is doing such a great job and amaral is miles ahead in the trial...or because everything is slipping away....remember all amarals assets are frozen...if he has such a strong case why isn't he in court getting his money back..its obvious amaral is toast

Wait for the judges verdict. 8((()*/

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2014, 09:51:05 AM »
Wait for the judges verdict. 8((()*/

I don't have to wait for any verdict because I can assess the evidence

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2014, 10:02:23 AM »

This Forum is going to be so much fun when Amaral loses.