So what's next in the libel trial saga?

[Mr Gray]

It's just the McCann's wanting even more money for what they did wrong.

courts don't award YOU money for what YOU do wrong...try and keep up

[stephen25000]

courts don't award YOU money for what YOU do wrong...try and keep up

Would the mccanns be in proceedings now if they had taken care of their children in the first place ?

Cause and effect.........

I have noticed the rampant postings of the acolytes this morning.

I wonder why that is the case ?

[Wonderfulspam]

they got away with it in Portugal...phew...then persuaded SY to reinvestigate and got away with it again. They seem very good at getting away with it.

They wanted a review, didn't they?

Besides, It was Rebekah who threatened Cameron.

When she offered, how could they refuse?

[faithlilly]

Not really; predictable more like.
There was the final arguments hoo ha in court during the week so it is now Dr Amaral's turn in the barrel with all the usual bolleaux being trotted out by the usual suspects that has been trotted out by them for god knows how long.
Like we didn't understand it all the first time around ( that's sarcasm if you were in doubt).
The interesting point is why retread it again now?

Indeed Alice yet the recent revelation that someone connected to the case has been, or as far as we know still is indulging in extra-curricular activity is whooshed like so many three year olds on a foreign holiday. Swift work John ! I wonder who complained ?

[stephen25000]

They wanted a review, didn't they?

Besides, It was Rebekah who threatened Cameron.

When she offered, how could they refuse?

I wonder what she promised to bestow. *&*%£

[Jean-Pierre]

Because the got away with it, obviously.

Doesn't say much for poor old Amaral, then.  If it was so bleedin obvious, it should have be easy to prove that they dunnit.

So.  Why hasn't he.

[Alice Purjorick]

Genuine question ... I have asked it before and never received a response.

Is there another case of the lead detective in a failed missing child inquiry ... writing an accusatory best selling book, allegedly based on the facts of the case, to implicate the child's parents in the disappearance and restore his 'honour'?

I doubt it but that is just my gut feeling. To be accurate one would need to identify all failed missing child inquiries. You haven't specified a domain or timescale so it could be extraordinarily time consuming. I don't want to find time for such a venture as at best it will yield a piece of information which is of little constructive use to either side of the argument.

[Jean-Pierre]

You seem to forget JP, if not for the McCann's and their crass arrogance and incompetence as parents, these threads would not exist.

Amaral tried to do his job, and he has truly paid the price with the vengeance of the McCann's.

As for my 'advancing years', I have a full set of marbles, unlike many of your brethren.

Oh, I "get it" now.  He was just playing at being a detective.  His real job was writing his book, making documentaries and giving interviews on daytime TV.  Thanks, it's all a bit clearer now.   

PS - I trust you are enjoying playing with them.....

[Alice Purjorick]

They wanted a review, didn't they?

Besides, It was Rebekah who threatened Cameron.

When she offered, how could they refuse?

My understanding is that they could have opposed the archiving process and of course there is that famous video "Why don't you request the reopening of the case now while you are here".

[stephen25000]

Oh, I "get it" now.  He was just playing at being a detective.  His real job was writing his book, making documentaries and giving interviews on daytime TV.  Thanks, it's all a bit clearer now.   

PS - I trust you are enjoying playing with them.....

It's getting past your bedtime jp.

 

[ferryman]

My understanding is that they could have opposed the archiving process and of course there is that famous video "Why don't you request the reopening of the case now while you are here".

They had 20 days from the archiving to raise grounds of objection to the archiving.

It took them vastly longer than that to get the files translated, let alone read them.

In that respect, Murat had a (comparative) advantage.

He didn't need the files translated.

But reading the whole lot in 20 days would have been a stretch, even for him ...

[stephen25000]

From another poster raising an interesting point or two...............

'I don't know if anyone particularly took note, but during the hearing this week it emerged that the McCanns lawyers attempted to introduce further written evidence from two of their witnesses after they had rested their case. The judge refused, they appealed to a higher court and permission was granted, although apparently the judge is not obliged to consider it. This suggests to me that they know they fell well short of proving their case for damages. They claimed a whole range of consequences, of injuries to their physical and mental well-being, social standing etc and that these were caused by the book.
I don't think that they proved any of them existed, let alone that they were caused by the book. If you are going to go into court and claim that you have been suffering from a deep and intractable depression it would be an idea to actually have such a diagnosis made by a suitably qualified person and to have sought treatment. Kate McCann did neither, so in my opinion the existence of that depressive disorder has not been established. If it isn't even established then she can't possibly establish a causal relationship between it and the book. She also describes incidents of behaviour, thoughts and feelings consistent with mental illness in her own book, occurring long before Amaral's book was published, so at best I think she established that she had an existing mental illness.

I think the McCanns became used to setting the CR pack dogs away and their opponents caving in, as the papers and Bennett did. I cannot understand how they thought they could win a case with evidence from close family and a group of newly acquired friends none of whom knew them before Madeleine disappeared.

What is going to be interesting is to see the public mood when the verdict comes in. I think public sympathy for the McCanns is very much on the wane at the moment, partly because of the cost and partly because of the sight of Operation Grange detectives in Portugal every few weeks asking, in the words of one witness, the "exact same crap" as they have been asked before. So if they lose, I can't see there being much sympathy for them. '

[Angelo222]

Did the McCanns succeed in stopping the book being read?  Prior to the case being re-opened damages would have been useful in keeping the private investigation going, now not so much.  And then there is the principle.  Amaral hurt them, hurt the prospects of Madeleine being found (pretty much from Day 1) and profited from the hurt he caused so why shouldn't he be made to pay? I'd probably do exactly the same in their position.

For a minute there you lost me?   They brought their own roof down Samson and Delilah style.

What the good coordinating detective did was to open up the possibilities.  He was right to do so and the McCanns took the bait.

As far as profiting is concerned, would he not have been better off minus the Madeleine case?  You have a very short memory of what Metodo and Marcos Correia did to him while all the time being subsidised by McCann related money.  Just who was the real aggressor Alf?

[Eleanor]

I know how much you all enjoy insulting each other, but would you please try to stick to the topic.

[Alice Purjorick]

They had 20 days from the archiving to raise grounds of objection to the archiving.

It took them vastly longer than that to get the files translated, let alone read them.

In that respect, Murat had a (comparative) advantage.

He didn't need the files translated.

But reading the whole lot in 20 days would have been a stretch, even for him ...

What were their Portuguese lawyers doing then?