So what's next in the libel trial saga?

[ferryman]

Neither....They didn't bother to get it overturned because the libel trial will finally settle the issue...as you will see. The book is no longer in print so why bother to get an injunction...why is it no longer in print...do the publishers accept it's libellous?

And keeping the English-language version on line has proved useful, in ways scarcely advantageous to Amaral ...

[stephen25000]

Neither....They didn't bother to get it overturned because the libel trial will finally settle the issue...as you will see. The book is no longer in print so why bother to get an injunction...why is it no longer in print...do the publishers accept it's libellous?

This trial won't settle the issue.

It will be followed by appeals, and the mccanns will get squat, apart from increasing legal costs.

[ferryman]

This trial won't settle the issue.

It will be followed by appeals, and the mccanns will get squat, apart from increasing legal costs.

So are you admitting that Amaral has lost (at least this round), Stephen?

[Albertini]

Neither....They didn't bother to get it overturned because the libel trial will finally settle the issue...as you will see. The book is no longer in print so why bother to get an injunction...why is it no longer in print...do the publishers accept it's libellous?

Really simple. Because those Judge's statement definitively states that Amaral's thesis, presented in the book, was an equally valid  interpretation of the facts as the Prosecutor's report AND that it didn't impinge on the McCann's rights.

So given the crushing nature of that judgement for the McCann's anything that could have been done to limit the damage of that judgement, which one presumes, will be the starting point of this case, had to be brought before this court.

So once again either the McCann's lawyers are incompetent or they accept that finding without question.

the fact it wasn't speaks volumes.

[stephen25000]

So are you admitting that Amaral has lost (at least this round), Stephen?

No ferryman.

I'm looking forward to the mccanns losing even more money, due to their egos and wish for revenge overcoming common sense.

[Albertini]

And keeping the English-language version on line has proved useful, in ways scarcely advantageous to Amaral ...

Super and can you produce the statement from any of the McCann's witnesses who could quantify the damage done by the book being available on-line?

I'm not talking about hearsay or feelings i'm talking about facts.

[Benice]

I simply can't believe that the judges stated that eddie detected cadaver odour on the key fob...even Grime doesn't say that.

I agree it was a serious error Davel.    It makes me wonder if the Judges were under the wrong impression that Eddie only alerted to cadaverscent and did not know he also alerted to blood from living people. 

That is the impression Amaral gives in his book - which is completely untrue and very misleading to his readers. IMO.

[stephen25000]

I agree it was a serious error Davel.    It makes me wonder if the Judges were under the wrong impression that Eddie only alerted to cadaverscent and did not know he also alerted to blood from living people. 

That is the impression Amaral gives in his book - which is completely untrue and very misleading to his readers. IMO.

Can you remind us all, where the dog alerts were ?

and explain why the dogs did not alert to any other object or place.

[Wonderfulspam]

Can you remind us all, where the dog alerts were ?

and explain why the dogs did not alert to any other object or place.

It was a stitch up, steve.

Mr Grime was cueing Eddie.

Magic beans?

[ferryman]

Super and can you produce the statement from any of the McCann's witnesses who could quantify the damage done by the book being available on-line?

I'm not talking about hearsay or feelings i'm talking about facts.

Off you go.

It is a libel trial, with damage both to the McCanns' reputation and to the search for Madeleine by propagation of the myth as if fact that Madeleine has been ascertained as definitely dead.

Damage could be quantified as Amaral's ill-gotten gains from sale of his book in several countries of Europe, and from money made in giving interviews.

[stephen25000]

It is a libel trial, with damage both to the McCanns' reputation and to the search for Madeleine by propagation of the myth as if fact that Madeleine has been ascertained as definitely dead.

Damage could be quantified as Amaral's ill-gotten gains from sale of his book in several countries of Europe, and from money made in giving interviews.

The clear myth, above many others, is that that a so called 'search' was impeded.

It is complete and utter rollocks.

[Eleanor]

Did I read somewhere recently that The Judge has a certain number of days to go through the depositions to determine what is true and what isn't?

[Albertini]

It is a libel trial, with damage both to the McCanns' reputation and to the search for Madeleine by propagation of the myth as if fact that Madeleine has been ascertained as definitely dead.

Damage could be quantified as Amaral's ill-gotten gains from sale of his book in several countries of Europe, and from money made in giving interviews.

So that's a no then? You can't produce anything of any substance. Thought not.

The previous trial, as i quoted, endorsed the book's validity as an interpretation of the facts of the case AND that the McCann's rights were not violated as a consequence of the book having been published.

What makes you think then given that ruling that this court is going to overturn that previous ruling and find that the self same book damaged their reputation?

So that leaves the "damage to the search", so what evidence did you hear of from the transcripts that gave hard and quantifiable statistics to prove that allegation?

[ferryman]

So that's a no then? You can't produce anything of any substance. Thought not.

The previous trial, as i quoted, endorsed the book's validity as an interpretation of the facts of the case AND that the McCann's rights were not violated as a consequence of the book having been published.

What makes you think then given that ruling that this court is going to overturn that previous ruling and find that the self same book damaged their reputation?

So that leaves the "damage to the search", so what evidence did you hear of from the transcripts that gave hard and quantifiable statistics to prove that allegation?

Amaral's ill-gotten gains from the sale of his book and from interviews is quite quantifiable ...

[stephen25000]

Amaral's ill-gotten gains from the sale of his book and from interviews is quite quantifiable ...

Ill gotten gains ???

What law did he break in writing the book ?