Author Topic: So what's next in the libel trial saga?  (Read 330653 times)

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Offline Albertini

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #810 on: December 16, 2014, 08:56:58 PM »
What proven lies, distortions and falsehoods ?

Prove it ferryman, your posts are becoming increasingly desperate.

What's he missing is the bit that goes before all that, the most important bit. He needs the McCann's legal team to prove the libel and quantify their claims.

If you can't do that then the damages which follow is of no relevance.

And Angus Mcbride's comments on the stand sum up the McCann's ability to prove their claims.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #811 on: December 16, 2014, 08:57:40 PM »
"permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear".

Kate McCann is "steeped in a deep and serious depression".



she's much too strong a women to do any of that....you can't help but admire her
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #812 on: December 16, 2014, 08:58:46 PM »
What's he missing is the bit that goes before all that, the most important bit. He needs the McCann's legal team to prove the libel and quantify their claims.

If you can't do that then the damages which follow is of no relevance.

And Angus Mcbride's comments on the stand sum up the McCann's ability to prove their claims.

They don't need to prove libel and the judge will quantify the claims...simple

Offline Albertini

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #813 on: December 16, 2014, 09:00:08 PM »
"permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear".

Kate McCann is "steeped in a deep and serious depression".



Isn't it funny how Kate made no mention of these conditions as a result of Amaral's book in her own book.

The only comments I can find relate solely to her slightly disturbing pathological hatred of him.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 09:09:44 PM by Eleanor »

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #814 on: December 16, 2014, 09:00:32 PM »
What's he missing is the bit that goes before all that, the most important bit. He needs the McCann's legal team to prove the libel and quantify their claims.

If you can't do that then the damages which follow is of no relevance.

And Angus Mcbride's comments on the stand sum up the McCann's ability to prove their claims.

Damage is quantified by Amaral's ill-gotten-gains ....

And damage?  Well, self-evident ...

« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 09:10:30 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Albertini

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #815 on: December 16, 2014, 09:01:44 PM »
They don't need to prove libel and the judge will quantify the claims...simple

They have to provide proof to substantiate their claim of libel.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #816 on: December 16, 2014, 09:02:34 PM »
What's he missing is the bit that goes before all that, the most important bit. He needs the McCann's legal team to prove the libel and quantify their claims.

If you can't do that then the damages which follow is of no relevance.

And Angus Mcbride's comments on the stand sum up the McCann's ability to prove their claims.

....and that Albertini, sums it up.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #817 on: December 16, 2014, 09:06:50 PM »
They have to provide proof to substantiate their claim of libel.

Amaral's book is a good starting point.

There might be the odd page that doesn't contain libel, but not many ...

Offline Angelo222

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #818 on: December 16, 2014, 09:07:47 PM »
Challenging Amaral in a libel case obviously makes the parents feel good about each other. The attacks on him by their agents Metodo are well documented so I am just a little surprised that this information hasn't found its way to the libel court yet.  Could this be yet to come, is this the ace up his sleeve??


De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Albertini

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #819 on: December 16, 2014, 09:08:08 PM »
Damage is quantified by Amaral's ill-gotten-gains ....

And damage?  Well, self-evident ...


No, no and no.

They have to prove that a book judged in a previous hearing not to have impinged upon their rights suddenly did then impinge on their rights.

Then they put forward their damages claim.

It can never be self evident that a book judged to be a valid interpretation of the facts of the case can suddenly be seen as not valid.

Particularly when the plaintiff (or respondents if your prefer) legal team have produced zip in the way of evidence other than opinion and hearsay from family and employees who can hardly be viewed as impartial.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 09:13:15 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Albertini

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #820 on: December 16, 2014, 09:10:27 PM »
Amaral's book is a good starting point.

There might be the odd page that doesn't contain libel, but not many ...

But yet in two separate court cases Duarte has spectacularly failed to demonstrate any.

Are you sure she's up to the job if it's as clear cut as you're trying to suggest?

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #821 on: December 16, 2014, 09:13:18 PM »
No, no and no.

They have to prove that a book judged in a previous hearing not to have impinged upon their rights suddenly did then impinge on their rights.

Then they put forward their damages claim.

It can never be self evident that a book judged to be a valid interpretation of the facts of the case can suddenly be seen as not valid.

Particularly when the plaintiff (or respondents if your prefer) legal team have produced zip in the way of evidence other than opinion and hearsay from family and employees who can hardly be viewed as impartial.

A book judged (eventually) on appeal to have ascendency to that part of the Portuguese Constitution that allows freedom of expression over the (conflicting) right of citizens to a good name ...


Offline Albertini

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #822 on: December 16, 2014, 09:14:57 PM »
....and that Albertini, sums it up.

And for the record let's have a brief look at this devastating evidence produced by the team through their "media expert" Mcbride:

Defence Lawyer: I would like to know, for comparison’s sake, about the impact following the disappearance, the arguido status and the book respectively.
Angus Macbride: Says he has no idea and doesn't have numbers.

The judge comments she wasn't expecting Mr McBride to pop up with numbers in his pocket.

Defence Lawyer:  So when you say that the book had a growing impact, it's just your opinion?

Angus McBride: Yes.

Defence Lawyer:  So the impact on the search is also an opinion?

Angus MacBride: It’s a judgement, it's common sense.

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Haha!! Devastating for Amaral.

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #823 on: December 16, 2014, 09:16:39 PM »
But yet in two separate court cases Duarte has spectacularly failed to demonstrate any.

Are you sure she's up to the job if it's as clear cut as you're trying to suggest?

I don't think you know what Isobel Duarte has so far demonstrated.  I certainly don't.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #824 on: December 16, 2014, 09:19:47 PM »
And for the record let's have a brief look at this devastating evidence produced by the team through their "media expert" Mcbride:

Defence Lawyer: I would like to know, for comparison’s sake, about the impact following the disappearance, the arguido status and the book respectively.
Angus Macbride: Says he has no idea and doesn't have numbers.

The judge comments she wasn't expecting Mr McBride to pop up with numbers in his pocket.

Defence Lawyer:  So when you say that the book had a growing impact, it's just your opinion?

Angus McBride: Yes.

Defence Lawyer:  So the impact on the search is also an opinion?

Angus MacBride: It’s a judgement, it's common sense.

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Haha!! Devastating for Amaral.

I await ferryman's riposte.