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Offline slartibartfast

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1305 on: January 18, 2015, 09:52:22 PM »
Thank you very much...your support is appreciated

Though it appears to legal in the UK to report on questions raised under parliamentary privilege.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1306 on: January 18, 2015, 10:21:22 PM »
and that is EXACTLY why it is libellous to accuse the parents of any involvement...I understand libel

The case stops and rest with them.

No other person has been identified.

As it stands they were the last people to see her alive.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1307 on: January 18, 2015, 10:25:16 PM »
The case stops and rest with them.

No other person has been identified.

As it stands they were the last people to see her alive.

this is the libel thread and what you are saying has nothing to do with a defence to libel

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1308 on: January 18, 2015, 10:58:54 PM »
We just need to listen to the pronouncements of Amaral's own lawyers.

Santos requested that proceedings be in camera to protect Madeleine lest Madeleine be alive.

In its own right, that should tell you a great deal

In fact, it should tell you everything.

It's not GA v McCanns. You're forgetting the other three parties.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2015, 07:14:24 PM by John »

Offline Anna

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1309 on: January 18, 2015, 11:19:47 PM »
It's not GA v McCanns. You're forgetting the other three parties.

I agree, Lyall. However if Amaral loses, will not the other defendants also have lost?
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1310 on: January 18, 2015, 11:45:53 PM »
I agree, Lyall. However if Amaral loses, will not the other defendants also have lost?

 &%+((£ I'm not a lawyer, Anna.

But two of the defendants presumably aren't concerned with the book, and the book publisher not with the dvd. GA may have no responsibility for the dvd either. Some or all of them may be insured, so the insurers are also involved. It's a lot more complicated than many think.

Offline Anna

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1311 on: January 18, 2015, 11:57:42 PM »
&%+((£ I'm not a lawyer, Anna.

But two of the defendants presumably aren't concerned with the book, and the book publisher not with the dvd. GA may have no responsibility for the dvd either. Some or all of them may be insured, so the insurers are also involved. It's a lot more complicated than many think.

I understand that Lyall,
Surely the success or not, of Amaral in the court case, will also contribute to the success or not of the others. Whoever used the book as a basis, will be judged on its use and the circulation of the content within, as will Amaral.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Lyall

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1312 on: January 19, 2015, 12:38:36 AM »
I understand that Lyall,
Surely the success or not, of Amaral in the court case, will also contribute to the success or not of the others. Whoever used the book as a basis, will be judged on its use and the circulation of the content within, as will Amaral.

The law applies equally to all of them, of course, even if they're not all there as responsible for the the exact same things.

But people ask would GA appeal (assuming it goes very badly)? when it must be all four who would have to make that decision. It would be difficult to see GA wanting to continue if the other three don't (.. I think). He might not even be able to if the book publisher doesn't want to?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2015, 12:42:10 AM by Lyall »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1313 on: January 19, 2015, 07:59:33 AM »
The law applies equally to all of them, of course, even if they're not all there as responsible for the the exact same things.

But people ask would GA appeal (assuming it goes very badly)? when it must be all four who would have to make that decision. It would be difficult to see GA wanting to continue if the other three don't (.. I think). He might not even be able to if the book publisher doesn't want to?

who says all four must appeal..someone on a forum...I don't see why amaral could not appeal himself, if he has grounds

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1314 on: January 19, 2015, 08:12:06 AM »
who says all four must appeal..someone on a forum...I don't see why amaral could not appeal himself, if he has grounds

It won't be Amaral or the other parties who will be appealing.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1315 on: January 19, 2015, 08:19:18 AM »
It won't be Amaral or the other parties who will be appealing.

probably not as he won't have any grounds...interesting how amaral went to so much trouble re  the ward of court issue...if he thought he had won he wouldn't have to pay damages to anyone...he must realise he's lost

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1316 on: January 19, 2015, 08:21:20 AM »
probably not as he won't have any grounds...interesting how amaral went to so much trouble re  the ward of court issue...if he thought he had won he wouldn't have to pay damages to anyone...he must realise he's lost

Try reading the post again.

You clearly did not get the message.

ferryman

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1317 on: January 19, 2015, 08:35:11 AM »
It's not GA v McCanns. You're forgetting the other three parties.

The output of the other 3 parties is based on what Amaral wrote (and presumably spoke in interviews).

If Amaral is guilty of libel, so are they, for producing what Amaral wrote.

stephen25000

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Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1318 on: January 19, 2015, 08:37:00 AM »
The output of the other 3 parties is based on what Amaral wrote (and presumably spoke in interviews).

If Amaral is guilty of libel, so are they, for producing what Amaral wrote.

Dream on. 8(0(*

Offline Carana

Re: So what's next in the libel trial saga?
« Reply #1319 on: January 19, 2015, 04:18:54 PM »
However this libel case goes, I don't see how it could prove anything concerning what happened to Madeleine, only whether his allegations are judged to have hindered the search for her directly or indirectly and to what extent.