So what's next in the libel trial saga?

[faithlilly]

We do not know the source of the published ruling and we don't know how accurate the translation is.....what we do know is that there is no celebration by amaral...he says the judgement MAY be favourable...what exactly does that mean..we will know soon

Why would Amaral celebrate ?

[Mr Gray]

Why would Amaral celebrate ?

he would celebrate if he was having all his assets returned

[ferryman]

Why would Amaral celebrate ?

Amaral will celebrate being allowed to keep as much as the judges will allow of his ill-gotten gains.

And if the judges rule that damage (from proven and established libel) is less than the McCanns are claiming, he may get to keep a sizeable wad of money.

We'll see ...

[Alfred R Jones]

Is that what I said ?

Yes.

[Alice Purjorick]

It might turn out to be a Pyrrhic victory for the McCanns.
It seems to me only their own claim for about 450k is left standing, the unit of currency seems to be a movable feast and the actual value of damages if any to be ruled upon by the judge.

[faithlilly]

Yes.

No I was simply repeating the judge's words.

[Brietta]

Amaral will celebrate being allowed to keep as much as the judges will allow of his ill-gotten gains.

And if the judges rule that damage (from proven and established libel) is less than the McCanns are claiming, he may get to keep a sizeable wad of money.

We'll see ...

I'm not at all sure that he will be master of his own finances even should the damages awarded against him be token.

During the libel trial the extent of his debts were laid bare ... there may possibly be creditors watching the progress of this action and waiting for a chance to recoup some of the money owed to them.

[faithlilly]

I'm not at all sure that he will be master of his own finances even should the damages awarded against him be token.

During the libel trial the extent of his debts were laid bare ... there may possibly be creditors watching the progress of this action and waiting for a chance to recoup some of the money owed to them.

Any creditors had many months to do that before the McCanns tied up Amaral's assets.

[ferryman]

I'm not at all sure that he will be master of his own finances even should the damages awarded against him be token.

During the libel trial the extent of his debts were laid bare ... there may possibly be creditors watching the progress of this action and waiting for a chance to recoup some of the money owed to them.

Ah! True.

[Eleanor]

Any creditors had many months to do that before the McCanns tied up Amaral's assets.

And Amaral had many months to pay his debts.

[Alfred R Jones]

No I was simply repeating the judge's words.

The judge said that it was proven that the book had caused damage to the McCanns - something is either proven or not proven, there is no grey area in between which is what you are insinuating. If it is proven that the book harmed the McCanns then that is that, you can't say the book caused harm but that the harm had already been caused before the book came out!

[Benice]

And Amaral had many months to pay his debts.

IIRC many of his debts were accumulated way before the McCanns had ever set foot in Portugal.  But no doubt they will get the blame.

[DCI]

IIRC many of his debts were accumulated way before the McCanns had ever set foot in Portugal.  But no doubt they will get the blame.

Yes from 2002, along with his first wife.

[faithlilly]

The judge said that it was proven that the book had caused damage to the McCanns - something is either proven or not proven, there is no grey area in between which is what you are insinuating. If it is proven that the book harmed the McCanns then that is that, you can't say the book caused harm but that the harm had already been caused before the book came out!

But that is exactly what the judge did say.

Can I suggest if you have issues with her claim you take it up with her.

[faithlilly]

And Amaral had many months to pay his debts.

How do you know he didn't ?